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From: Thierry Delisle <tdelisle@uwaterloo.ca>
To: <posk@posk.io>
Cc: <avagin@google.com>, <bsegall@google.com>, <jannh@google.com>,
	<jnewsome@torproject.org>, <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	<linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <peterz@infradead.org>, <pjt@google.com>,
	<posk@google.com>, <tdelisle@uwaterloo.ca>, <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Buhr <pabuhr@uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: implement UMCG syscalls
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:07:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c971806-b8f6-50b9-491f-e1ede4a33579@uwaterloo.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210716184719.269033-5-posk@google.com>

 > /**
 >  * @idle_servers_ptr: a single-linked list pointing to the list
 >  *                    of idle servers. Can be NULL.
 >  *
 >  * Readable/writable by both the kernel and the userspace: the
 >  * userspace adds items to the list, the kernel removes them.
 >  *
 >  * This is a single-linked list (stack): head->next->next->next->NULL.
 >  * "next" nodes are idle_servers_ptr fields in struct umcg_task.
 >  *
 >  * Example:
 >  *
 >  *  a running worker             idle server 1        idle server 2
 >  *
 >  * struct umct_task:             struct umcg_task:    struct umcg_task:
 >  *    state                         state state
 >  *    api_version                   api_version api_version
 >  *    ...                           ...                  ...
 >  *    idle_servers_ptr --> head --> idle_servers_ptr --> 
idle_servers_ptr --> NULL
 >  *    ...                           ...                  ...
 >  *
 >  *
 >  * Due to the way struct umcg_task is aligned, idle_servers_ptr
 >  * is aligned at 8 byte boundary, and so has its first byte as zero
 >  * when it holds a valid pointer.
 >  *
 >  * When pulling idle servers from the list, the kernel marks nodes as
 >  * "deleted" by ORing the node value (the pointer) with 1UL atomically.
 >  * If a node is "deleted" (i.e. its value AND 1UL is not zero),
 >  * the kernel proceeds to the next node.
 >  *
 >  * The kernel checks at most [nr_cpu_ids * 2] first nodes in the list.
 >  *
 >  * It is NOT considered an error if the kernel cannot find an idle
 >  * server.
 >  *
 >  * The userspace is responsible for cleanup/gc (i.e. for actually
 >  * removing nodes marked as "deleted" from the list).
 >  */
 > uint64_t    idle_servers_ptr;    /* r/w */

I don't understand the reason for using this ad-hoc scheme, over using a 
simple
eventfd to do the job. As I understand it, the goal here is to let 
servers that
cannot find workers to run, block instead of spinning. Isn't that 
exactly what
the eventfd interface is for?

Have you considered an idle_fd field, the kernel writes 1 to the fd when a
worker is appended to the idle_workers_ptr? Servers that don't find work can
read the fd or alternatively use select/poll/epoll. Multiple workers are
expected to share fds, either a single global fd, one fd per server, or any
other combination the scheduler may fancy.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-19 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-16 18:47 [RFC PATCH 0/4 v0.3] sched/UMCG Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4 v0.3] sched: add WF_CURRENT_CPU and externise ttwu Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: add userspace atomic helpers Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: add userspace sll helpers Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-17  0:58   ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: implement UMCG syscalls Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-19 16:07   ` Thierry Delisle [this message]
2021-07-19 17:29     ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-19 18:13       ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-19 19:46         ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-21 19:55           ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-21 23:44             ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-23 19:06               ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-26 16:44                 ` Peter Oskolkov

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