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From: Thierry Delisle <tdelisle@uwaterloo.ca>
To: Peter Oskolkov <posk@google.com>
Cc: <posk@posk.io>, <avagin@google.com>, <bsegall@google.com>,
	<jannh@google.com>, <jnewsome@torproject.org>,
	<joel@joelfernandes.org>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
	<peterz@infradead.org>, <pjt@google.com>, <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Buhr <pabuhr@uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: implement UMCG syscalls
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:13:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8ea4892-51e5-0dc2-86c6-b705e8a23cde@uwaterloo.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPNVh5cmhFEWr4bmODkDDFhV=mHLcO0DZJ432GEL=OitzPP80g@mail.gmail.com>

 > Latency/efficiency: on worker wakeup an idle server can be picked from
 > the list and context-switched into synchronously, on the same CPU.
 > Using FDs and select/poll/epoll will add extra layers of abstractions;
 > synchronous context-switches (not yet fully implemented in UMCG) will
 > most likely be impossible. This patchset seems much more efficient and
 > lightweight than whatever can be built on top of FDs.

I can believe that.

Are you planning to support separate scheduling instances within a 
single user
space? That is having multiple sets of server threads and workers can 
only run
within a specific set.

I believe the problem with the idle_servers_ptr as specified is that it 
is not
possible to reclaim used nodes safely. I don't see any indication of which
nodes the kernel can concurrently access and on which some memory 
reclamation
scheme could be based.

What is the benefit of having users maintain themselves a list of idle 
servers
rather than each servers marking themselves as 'out of work' and having the
kernel maintain the list?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-19 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-16 18:47 [RFC PATCH 0/4 v0.3] sched/UMCG Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4 v0.3] sched: add WF_CURRENT_CPU and externise ttwu Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: add userspace atomic helpers Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: add userspace sll helpers Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-17  0:58   ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-16 18:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4 v0.3] sched/umcg: RFC: implement UMCG syscalls Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-19 16:07   ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-19 17:29     ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-19 18:13       ` Thierry Delisle [this message]
2021-07-19 19:46         ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-21 19:55           ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-21 23:44             ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-07-23 19:06               ` Thierry Delisle
2021-07-26 16:44                 ` Peter Oskolkov

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