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From: Derek Glidden <dglidden@illusionary.com>
To: John Alvord <jalvo@mbay.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:58:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B1E5316.F4B10172@illusionary.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B1E4CD0.D16F58A8@illusionary.com> <3b204fe5.4014698@mail.mbay.net>

John Alvord wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:31:28 -0400, Derek Glidden
> <dglidden@illusionary.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >I'm beginning to be amazed at the Linux VM hackers' attitudes regarding
> >this problem.  I expect this sort of behaviour from academics - ignoring
> >real actual problems being reported by real actual people really and
> >actually experiencing and reporting them because "technically" or
> >"theoretically" they "shouldn't be an issue" or because "the "literature
> >[documentation] says otherwise - but not from this group.
> 
> There have been multiple comments that a fix for the problem is
> forthcoming. Is there some reason you have to keep talking about it?

Because there have been many more comments that "The rule for 2.4 is
'swap == 2*RAM' and that's the way it is" and "disk space is cheap -
just add more" than there have been "this is going to be fixed" which is
extremely discouraging and doesn't instill me with all sorts of
confidence that this problem is being taken seriously.

Or are you saying that if someone is unhappy with a particular
situation, they should just keep their mouth shut and accept it?

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-06-06 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-06 15:31 Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 15:46 ` John Alvord
2001-06-06 15:58   ` Derek Glidden [this message]
2001-06-06 18:27     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 18:47       ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 18:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 19:06           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 19:28             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  4:32               ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07  6:38                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  7:28                   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07  7:59                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  8:15                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07 17:10                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-07 17:43                   ` Please test: workaround to help swapoff behaviour Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-06 19:28           ` Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps Derek Glidden
2001-06-09  7:55           ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 20:43       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-06 21:57       ` LA Walsh
2001-06-07  6:35         ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 15:25           ` LA Walsh
2001-06-07 16:42             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 20:47               ` LA Walsh
2001-06-08 19:38                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-09  7:34     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-06 21:57   ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-09  8:09     ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-10 22:04 Rob Landley
2001-06-07 14:22 Bulent Abali
2001-06-07 15:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07 10:46 Bernd Jendrissek
     [not found] ` <20010607153835.T14203@jessica>
2001-06-08  7:37   ` Bernd Jendrissek
2001-06-08 19:32 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-11 12:06   ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2001-06-11 19:04     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-12  7:46       ` Bernd Jendrissek
2001-06-05 22:19 Derek Glidden
2001-06-05 23:38 ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-06-06  1:42   ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-06  7:14     ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2001-06-06  3:19     ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 14:16       ` Disconnect
     [not found]       ` <3B1DEAC7.43DEFA1C@idb.hist.no>
2001-06-06 14:51         ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 21:34           ` Alan Cox
2001-06-09  8:07             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-07  7:23           ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-07 16:56             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 20:24             ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-06-06  4:03     ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-06-06  8:19     ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-06  8:54       ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06  9:57         ` Dr S.M. Huen
2001-06-06 10:06           ` DBs (ML)
2001-06-06 10:08           ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2001-06-06 10:19             ` Lauri Tischler
2001-06-06 10:22           ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 10:48             ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-06 16:58               ` dean gaudet
2001-06-06 17:10               ` Remi Turk
2001-06-06 22:44             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-09  7:17             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 16:47           ` dean gaudet
2001-06-06 17:17           ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-06-06 18:35             ` Dr S.M. Huen
2001-06-06 18:40               ` Mark Salisbury
2001-06-07  0:20           ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-09  8:16             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-09  8:57               ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-07 21:31           ` Shane Nay
2001-06-07 20:00             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-07 21:55               ` Shane Nay
2001-06-07 20:29                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-06 10:04         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 11:16         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-06 13:58         ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-08  4:56           ` C. Martins
2001-06-06 15:28         ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-06 15:42           ` Christian Bornträger
2001-06-06 17:14           ` Ben Greear
2001-06-06 19:11         ` android
2001-06-07  0:27           ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-06  9:16       ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-06  9:25         ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 12:07       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 14:41       ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 20:29       ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-06-06 13:32     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 14:41     ` Marc Heckmann
2001-06-06 14:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2001-06-06  7:47   ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 13:08   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 16:48     ` Jeffrey W. Baker
     [not found] ` <m2lmn61ceb.fsf@sympatico.ca>
2001-06-06 14:37   ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-07  0:34     ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-07  3:13       ` Miles Lane
2001-06-07 15:49         ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-07 19:06         ` Miles Lane
2001-06-09  5:57         ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-06 18:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 19:39   ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07  7:42   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  8:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07  8:54       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 21:39 ` android
2001-06-06 22:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 22:27 ` android
2001-06-06 22:33   ` Antoine
2001-06-06 22:38 ` Robert Love
2001-06-06 22:40 ` Jonathan Morton

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