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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Jeffrey W. Baker" <jwbaker@acm.org>
Cc: Derek Glidden <dglidden@illusionary.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps
Date: 06 Jun 2001 07:08:37 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17kyp7o2y.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106051634540.8311-100000@heat.gghcwest.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106051634540.8311-100000@heat.gghcwest.com>

"Jeffrey W. Baker" <jwbaker@acm.org> writes:

> On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Derek Glidden wrote:
> 
> >
> > After reading the messages to this list for the last couple of weeks and
> > playing around on my machine, I'm convinced that the VM system in 2.4 is
> > still severely broken.
> >
> > This isn't trying to test extreme low-memory pressure, just how the
> > system handles recovering from going somewhat into swap, which is a real
> > day-to-day problem for me, because I often run a couple of apps that
> > most of the time live in RAM, but during heavy computation runs, can go
> > a couple hundred megs into swap for a few minutes at a time.  Whenever
> > that happens, my machine always starts acting up afterwards, so I
> > started investigating and found some really strange stuff going on.
> 
> I reboot each of my machines every week, to take them offline for
> intrusion detection.  I use 2.4 because I need advanced features of
> iptables that ipchains lacks.  Because the 2.4 VM is so broken, and
> because my machines are frequently deeply swapped, they can sometimes take
> over 30 minutes to shutdown.  They hang of course when the shutdown rc
> script turns off the swap.  The first few times this happened I assumed
> they were dead.

Interesting.  Is it constant disk I/O?  Or constant CPU utilization.
In any case you should be able to comment that line out of your shutdown
rc script and be in perfectly good shape.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-06 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-05 22:19 Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps Derek Glidden
2001-06-05 23:38 ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-06-06  1:42   ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-06  7:14     ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2001-06-06  3:19     ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 14:16       ` Disconnect
     [not found]       ` <3B1DEAC7.43DEFA1C@idb.hist.no>
2001-06-06 14:51         ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 21:34           ` Alan Cox
2001-06-09  8:07             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-07  7:23           ` Helge Hafting
2001-06-07 16:56             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 20:24             ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-06-06  4:03     ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-06-06  8:19     ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-06  8:54       ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06  9:57         ` Dr S.M. Huen
2001-06-06 10:06           ` DBs (ML)
2001-06-06 10:08           ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2001-06-06 10:19             ` Lauri Tischler
2001-06-06 10:22           ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 10:48             ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-06 16:58               ` dean gaudet
2001-06-06 17:10               ` Remi Turk
2001-06-06 22:44             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-06-09  7:17             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 16:47           ` dean gaudet
2001-06-06 17:17           ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-06-06 18:35             ` Dr S.M. Huen
2001-06-06 18:40               ` Mark Salisbury
2001-06-07  0:20           ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-09  8:16             ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-09  8:57               ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-07 21:31           ` Shane Nay
2001-06-07 20:00             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-07 21:55               ` Shane Nay
2001-06-07 20:29                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-07 23:29                   ` VM Report was:Re: " Shane Nay
2001-06-08  1:18                   ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-08 12:50                     ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 14:19                       ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-08 16:51                         ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 19:09                           ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-06-09  4:36                             ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 15:51                       ` John Stoffel
2001-06-08 17:01                         ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-09  3:34                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-08 17:43                         ` John Stoffel
2001-06-08 17:35                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-09  5:07                             ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-08 18:30                           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-09 12:31                             ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-06-08 20:58                           ` John Stoffel
2001-06-08 20:04                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-08 23:44                             ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-09  2:36                               ` Andrew Morton
2001-06-09  6:33                                 ` Mark Hahn
2001-06-09  3:43                               ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-09  4:05                               ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-09  5:09                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 10:04         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 11:16         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-06 13:58         ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-08  4:56           ` C. Martins
2001-06-06 15:28         ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-06 15:42           ` Christian Bornträger
2001-06-06 15:57             ` Requirement: swap = RAM x 2.5 ?? Jeff Garzik
2001-06-06 18:42               ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  1:29                 ` Jan Harkes
2001-06-06 16:12             ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-06 16:15               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-06 16:19               ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-06 16:53                 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 17:05               ` Greg Hennessy
2001-06-06 17:14           ` Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps Ben Greear
2001-06-06 19:11         ` android
2001-06-07  0:27           ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-06  9:16       ` Xavier Bestel
2001-06-06  9:25         ` Sean Hunter
2001-06-06 12:07       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 14:41       ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 20:29       ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-06-06 13:32     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 14:41     ` Marc Heckmann
2001-06-06 14:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2001-06-06  7:47   ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 13:08   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2001-06-06 16:48     ` Jeffrey W. Baker
     [not found] ` <m2lmn61ceb.fsf@sympatico.ca>
2001-06-06 14:37   ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-07  0:34     ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-07  3:13       ` Miles Lane
2001-06-07 15:49         ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-07 19:06         ` Miles Lane
2001-06-09  5:57         ` Mike A. Harris
2001-06-06 18:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 19:39   ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07  7:42   ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  8:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07  8:54       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 21:39 ` android
2001-06-06 22:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 22:27 ` android
2001-06-06 22:33   ` Antoine
2001-06-06 22:38 ` Robert Love
2001-06-06 22:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-06 15:31 Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 15:46 ` John Alvord
2001-06-06 15:58   ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 18:27     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 18:47       ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-06 18:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-06 19:06           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-06 19:28             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  4:32               ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07  6:38                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  7:28                   ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07  7:59                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07  8:15                       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-07 17:10                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-06 19:28           ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-09  7:55           ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 20:43       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-06 21:57       ` LA Walsh
2001-06-07  6:35         ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 15:25           ` LA Walsh
2001-06-07 16:42             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-06-07 20:47               ` LA Walsh
2001-06-08 19:38                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-09  7:34     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-06 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-06 21:57   ` Derek Glidden
2001-06-09  8:09     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-07 10:46 Bernd Jendrissek
     [not found] ` <20010607153835.T14203@jessica>
2001-06-08  7:37   ` Bernd Jendrissek
2001-06-08 19:32 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-11 12:06   ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2001-06-11 19:04     ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-12  7:46       ` Bernd Jendrissek
2001-06-07 14:22 Bulent Abali
2001-06-07 15:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-06-10 22:04 Rob Landley

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