Re: disregard: Re: ide zip 100 won't mount

Re: disregard: Re: ide zip 100 won't mount

[Sam Varshavchik]

Joseph Cheek writes: 

> hmm, i went into windows *one more time* just to make sure it was still 
> working, and not a hardware problem.  well... looks like it doesn't work 
> in windows either.  must be hardware. 
> 
> funny thing it shows up in dmesg and in "My Computer", just can't read 
> from it.

That's pretty much what the sense codes below did indicate - media problem.  
Try a different disk. 

> 
> Joseph Cheek wrote: 
> 
>> i've tried 2.4.7-ac10 and 2.4.9-ac10.  same results.  at boot i get: 
>> 
>> Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.97.sv
>> Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: hdd: No disk in drive
>> Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 
>> 512
>> sector size, 2941 rpm 
>> 
>> looks good, right?  but i put a disk in and i get: 
>> 
>> Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc =  0, key 
>> =
>> 2, asc = 30, ascq =  0
>> Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key 
>> =
>> 2, asc = 30, ascq =  0
>> Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: hdd: No disk in drive 
>> 
>> not hardware, as it works in windows on the same machine. 
>> 
>> any ideas? 
>> 
>> thanks!

-- 
Sam

Re: disregard: Re: ide zip 100 won't mount

[Peter Wächtler]

Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> 
> Joseph Cheek writes:
> 
> > hmm, i went into windows *one more time* just to make sure it was still
> > working, and not a hardware problem.  well... looks like it doesn't work
> > in windows either.  must be hardware.
> >
> > funny thing it shows up in dmesg and in "My Computer", just can't read
> > from it.
> 
> That's pretty much what the sense codes below did indicate - media problem.
> Try a different disk.
> 

I had the same problem. The second media works, the first got
screwed up? I can't reproduce the problem now.

The media gets destroyed after partitioning and running mke2fs.
I can't believe it myself - but have no other explanation.

When the media was broken I got:
<7>VFS: Disk change detected on device ide0(3,64)
<6> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0:<7>LDM:  DEBUG (ldm.c, 877):
 validate_partition_table: Found basic MS-DOS partition, not a dynamic
disk.
<4> p1 p2 p3 p4
<7>VFS: Disk change detected on device ide0(3,65)
<6> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0:<7>LDM:  DEBUG (ldm.c, 877):
 validate_partition_table: Found basic MS-DOS partition, not a dynamic
disk.
<4> p1 p2 p3 p4
[and so on with funny device numbers up to 3,93]

cat /proc/partitions
   3    64      98288 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc
   3    65  272218546 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1
   3    66  269488144 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part2
   3    67  699181456 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part3
   3    68      10668 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part4

Note: a new media has NO partition - it's a floppy.
Now is it possible that the media gets destroyed if the hardware
tries to seek to illegal positions?


> > Joseph Cheek wrote:
> >
> >> i've tried 2.4.7-ac10 and 2.4.9-ac10.  same results.  at boot i get:
> >>
> >> Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.97.sv
> >> Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: hdd: No disk in drive
> >> Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps,
> >> 512
> >> sector size, 2941 rpm
> >>
> >> looks good, right?  but i put a disk in and i get:
> >>
> >> Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc =  0, key
> >> =
> >> 2, asc = 30, ascq =  0
> >> Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key
> >> =
> >> 2, asc = 30, ascq =  0
> >> Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: hdd: No disk in drive
> >>
> >> not hardware, as it works in windows on the same machine.

Re: disregard: Re: ide zip 100 won't mount

[Mark H. Wood]

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Joseph Cheek writes:
> > hmm, i went into windows *one more time* just to make sure it was still
> > working, and not a hardware problem.  well... looks like it doesn't work
> > in windows either.  must be hardware.
> >
> > funny thing it shows up in dmesg and in "My Computer", just can't read
> > from it.
>
> That's pretty much what the sense codes below did indicate - media problem.

For future reference, is there any sort of tool that will decode these
magic numbers, since the driver doesn't do it for us?  It ought to cut
down on the number of posts beginning, "my IDE driver began speaking in
tongues, what is it trying to tell me?"

-- 
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   mwood@IUPUI.Edu
Make a good day.

Re: disregard: Re: ide zip 100 won't mount

[Sam Varshavchik]

Mark H. Wood writes: 

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Sam Varshavchik wrote: 
>
>> That's pretty much what the sense codes below did indicate - media problem.
> 
> For future reference, is there any sort of tool that will decode these
> magic numbers, since the driver doesn't do it for us?  It ought to cut
> down on the number of posts beginning, "my IDE driver began speaking in
> tongues, what is it trying to tell me?"

ftp://ftp.seagate.com/sff/INF-8070.PDF 

You'll have to page through it, it's kind of scattered all over the place. 

This is for removable ATAPI IDE devices.  I don't know how much of that is 
applicable to plain garden-variety IDE devices. 

-- 
Sam 

disregard: Re: ide zip 100 won't mount

[Joseph Cheek]

hmm, i went into windows *one more time* just to make sure it was still 
working, and not a hardware problem.  well... looks like it doesn't work 
in windows either.  must be hardware.

funny thing it shows up in dmesg and in "My Computer", just can't read 
from it.

Joseph Cheek wrote:

>i've tried 2.4.7-ac10 and 2.4.9-ac10.  same results.  at boot i get:
>
>Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.97.sv
>Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: hdd: No disk in drive
>Sep 17 11:02:48 seattle kernel: hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512
>sector size, 2941 rpm
>
>looks good, right?  but i put a disk in and i get:
>
>Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc =  0, key =
>2, asc = 30, ascq =  0
>Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key =
>2, asc = 30, ascq =  0
>Sep 17 14:36:23 seattle kernel: hdd: No disk in drive
>
>not hardware, as it works in windows on the same machine.
>
>any ideas?
>
>thanks!
>
>joe
>
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