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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <ag@bestbits.at>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com, Nikita Danilov <god@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revised extended attributes interface
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:23:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C164F31.7080404@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011205143209.C44610@wobbly.melbourne.sgi.com> <20011207202036.J2274@redhat.com> <20011208155841.A56289@wobbly.melbourne.sgi.com> <20011210115209.C1919@redhat.com> <20011211124115.E70201@wobbly.melbourne.sgi.com> <20011211134758.F2268@redhat.com>

Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:

>
>
>The proposal defines two "families" of attribute entities: attribute
>families and name families.
>
>An attribute family might be ATR_USER or ATR_SYSTEM to specify that we
>are dealing with arbitrary user or system named extended attributes,
>or ATR_POSIXACL to specify POSIX-semantics ACLs.  Obviously, this can
>be extended to other ACL semantics without revving the API --- a new
>attribute family would be all that is needed.
>
>The "name family" is the other part of the equation.  Attributes in
>the ATR_USER or ATR_SYSTEM families might be named with counted
>strings, so they would have names in the ANAME_STRING name family.
>POSIX ACLs, however, have a different namespace: ANAME_UID or
>ANAME_GID.  The API cleanly deals with the difference between user and
>group ACLs.  It also makes it easy to add support later on for more
>complex operations: if we want to add NT SID support to ext2 ACLs so
>that Samba and local accesses get the same access control, we can pass
>ANAME_NTSID names to the ATR_POSIXACL attribute family without
>changing the API.
>
If you have given it some thought, which your writing hints you may 
have, can you say a little about supporting NT SIDS and NT ACLs by 
Linux, and how that can be hard and easy?

One of my programmers is arguing that NT (as opposed to POSIX) ACL 
support is harder than I imagine due to SIDS, and.... your view would be 
interesting.

Hans


  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-11 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-05  3:32 [PATCH] Revised extended attributes interface Nathan Scott
2001-12-05  9:08 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-06  5:46   ` Nathan Scott
2001-12-06  3:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-06  5:41   ` Nathan Scott
2001-12-06 15:25     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-06 23:15       ` Nathan Scott
2001-12-07  1:45         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07  2:03         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-07  3:51           ` Nathan Scott
2001-12-07 20:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-12-08  4:58   ` Nathan Scott
2001-12-08 20:17     ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-11  2:42       ` reiser4 (was Re: [PATCH] Revised extended attributes interface) Nathan Scott
2001-12-11 12:02         ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-11 19:23         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-11 20:14           ` reiser4 (was Re: [PATCH] Revised extended attributesinterface) curtis
2001-12-11 21:34             ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-11 23:04               ` curtis
2001-12-11 23:28                 ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-11 23:46                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-12  1:00                   ` curtis
2001-12-11 21:21           ` reiser4 (was Re: [PATCH] Revised extended attributes interface) Hans Reiser
2001-12-11 23:33             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-11 23:59               ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-12  2:16                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-12 12:02                   ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-12 13:34                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-12 15:40                     ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-13  1:43             ` Andrew Pimlott
2001-12-13  9:23               ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-13 10:36                 ` User-manageable sub-ids proposals Romano Giannetti
2001-12-13 13:37                   ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-13 16:06                     ` Romano Giannetti
2001-12-13 18:58                       ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-12-18  0:17                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-13 23:24                   ` David Wagner
2001-12-21 21:28                   ` Andreas Ferber
2001-12-13 15:27                 ` reiser4 (was Re: [PATCH] Revised extended attributes interface) Andrew Pimlott
2001-12-13 20:47                   ` Hans Reiser
2001-12-13 21:01               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-10 11:52     ` [PATCH] Revised extended attributes interface Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-12-10 15:00       ` Peter J. Braam
2001-12-10 15:56         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-12-10 16:00           ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2001-12-10 16:15             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-12-10 19:01           ` John Stoffel
2001-12-11  1:22       ` Timothy Shimmin
2001-12-11 11:33         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-12-11 15:15           ` Implementing POSIX ACLs - was: " Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-11  1:41       ` Nathan Scott
2001-12-11 13:47         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-12-11 18:23           ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2001-12-11 18:46           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-11 23:37           ` Implementing POSIX ACLs - was " Nathan Scott
2001-12-11 13:30       ` Implementing POSIX ACLs - was: " Anton Altaparmakov
2001-12-11 14:34         ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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