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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Jan Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: fadvise syscall?
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 05:08:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C95BC82.2070003@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C945635.4050101@mandrakesoft.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020317170621.00abd980@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.2.20020317190303.03289ec0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.2.20020318000057.051d30e0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <a73ujs$5mc$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <20020318085811.GA21981@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

Jan Hudec wrote:

>>Followup to:  <5.1.0.14.2.20020318000057.051d30e0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
>>By author:    Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
>>In newsgroup: linux.dev.fs.devel
>>
>>>Ok, so basically we want both fadvise() and open(2) semantics, with the 
>>>open(2) being a superset of the fadvise() capabilities (some things no 
>>>longer make sense to be specified once the file is open). They can of 
>>>course both be calling the same common helpers inside the kernel...
>>>
>>If they're open() flags, they should probably be controlled with
>>fcntl() rather than with a new system call.
>>
>
>Then posix_fadvise interface can be implemented in libc using fcntl.
>
Indeed it can be...  but it less flexible that way, unless you want to 
add another level of indirection.

It is far better for future-proofing the interface IMO if fadvise is 
implementing directly.  Hints are less important than open O_xxx flags 
or F_xxx flags, because an implementation can safely ignore 100% of the 
fadvise hints, if it so chooses.  One cannot say the same thing for 
open/fcntl flags.

So, different class of fd flags deserves a different syscall, IMO...

    Jeff







  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-18 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-17  8:39 fadvise syscall? Jeff Garzik
2002-03-17  8:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-17  9:10   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-17 23:59     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 13:41   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 14:31     ` Simon Richter
2002-03-17 14:56       ` Jan Hudec
2002-03-17 15:00     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 19:20     ` Joel Becker
2002-03-18  7:28     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18  7:55       ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18  8:07         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18  8:17           ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 16:41         ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-18 19:00           ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 19:15             ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-22 16:05       ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-24  6:38         ` Stevie O
2002-03-24 11:24           ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-24 12:52             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-25 11:12               ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-18  8:05     ` Joel Becker
2002-03-18  8:10       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-18  8:20         ` Joel Becker
2002-03-18  8:14       ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 14:39         ` Martin K. Petersen
2002-03-18 19:15           ` Andrew Morton
2002-03-18 19:42             ` Martin K. Petersen
2002-03-19 20:08               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-19 23:38                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2002-03-17 20:18   ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-17 15:13 ` Ken Hirsch
2002-03-17 17:14 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 18:31   ` Mark Mielke
2002-03-17 18:35   ` Ken Hirsch
2002-03-17 19:06   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-17 20:19     ` Ken Hirsch
2002-03-18  0:12     ` Anton Altaparmakov
     [not found]       ` <a73ujs$5mc$1@cesium.transmeta.com>
2002-03-18  8:58         ` Jan Hudec
2002-03-18 10:08           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-03-18 17:29             ` Mark Mielke

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