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From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] High-res-timers part 2 (x86 platform code) take 5.1
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 16:42:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DA4BECB.9C7D6119@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0210091613590.9234-100000@home.transmeta.com

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, george anzinger wrote:
> >
> > This patch, in conjunction with the "core" high-res-timers
> > patch implements high resolution timers on the i386
> > platforms.
> 
> I really don't get the notion of partial ticks, and quite frankly, this
> isn't going into my tree until some major distribution kicks me in the
> head and explains to me why the hell we have partial ticks instead of just
> making the ticks shorter.
> 
Well, the notion is to provide timers that have resolution
down into the micro seconds.  Since this take a bit more
overhead, we just set up an interrupt on an as needed
basis.  This is why we define both a high res and a low res
clock.  Timers on the low res clock will always use the 1/HZ
tick to drive them and thus do not introduce any additional
overhead.  If this is all that is needed the configure
option can be left off and only these timers will be
available.

On the other hand, if a user requires better resolution,
s/he just turns on the high-res option and incures the
overhead only when it is used and then only at timer expire
time.  Note that the only way to access a high-res timer is
via the POSIX clocks and timers API.  They are not available
to select or any other system call.

Making ticks shorter causes extra overhead ALL the time,
even when it is not needed.  Higher resolution is not free
in any case, but it is much closer to free with this patch
than by increasing HZ (which, of course, can still be
done).  Overhead wise and resolution wise, for timers, we
would be better off with a 1/HZ tick and the "on demand"
high-res interrupts this patch introduces.

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml

  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-09 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-09 22:47 [PATCH 2/3] High-res-timers part 2 (x86 platform code) take 5.1 george anzinger
2002-10-09 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-09 23:42   ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-10-10 15:03     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-10 15:45       ` george anzinger
2002-10-10 15:54     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-10 16:24       ` george anzinger
2002-10-10 17:04         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-10 17:47           ` george anzinger
2002-10-13 10:46   ` Ingo Adlung
2002-10-14  7:18     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-10-14 22:17       ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-15  7:13         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-10-15 21:45           ` george anzinger
2002-10-17 21:54   ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-10-17 22:11     ` Robert Love
2002-10-18 13:11     ` mbs
2002-10-10  0:50 Dan Kegel
2002-10-10  1:33 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-10  3:55 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-10  3:32   ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-10 12:34 ` mbs
2002-10-12 22:03 Jim Houston
2002-10-14  6:50 ` Ulrich Windl
2002-10-15 22:03   ` george anzinger
2002-10-19  1:02 Brad Bozarth

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