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From: Ingo.Adlung@t-online.de (Ingo Adlung)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <"Linus Torvalds"@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] High-res-timers part 2 (x86 platform code) take 5.1
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:46:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DA94F07.7070109@t-online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0210091613590.9234-100000@home.transmeta.com



Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, george anzinger wrote:
> 
>>This patch, in conjunction with the "core" high-res-timers
>>patch implements high resolution timers on the i386
>>platforms.
> 
> 
> I really don't get the notion of partial ticks, and quite frankly, this 
> isn't going into my tree until some major distribution kicks me in the 
> head and explains to me why the hell we have partial ticks instead of just 
> making the ticks shorter.
> 
> 		Linus

In any kind of virtual environment you would rather prefer a completely 
tickless system alltogether than increased tick rates. In a S/390 
virtual machine, running many hundreds of virtual Linux servers the 
100Hz timer pops are already considerably painful, and going to a higher 
tick rate achieving higher timer resolution is completely prohibitive. 
Similar is true in many embedded systems related to power consumption of 
high frequency ticks.

However, George has shown that introducing the notion of a completely 
tickless system is expensive on Intel overhead wise, thus partial ticks 
seem to be a possibility addressing the needs for embedded and virtual 
environments, getting decent timer resolution as needed.

Ingo Adlung


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-13 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-09 22:47 [PATCH 2/3] High-res-timers part 2 (x86 platform code) take 5.1 george anzinger
2002-10-09 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-09 23:42   ` george anzinger
2002-10-10 15:03     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-10 15:45       ` george anzinger
2002-10-10 15:54     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-10 16:24       ` george anzinger
2002-10-10 17:04         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-10 17:47           ` george anzinger
2002-10-13 10:46   ` Ingo Adlung [this message]
2002-10-14  7:18     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-10-14 22:17       ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-15  7:13         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-10-15 21:45           ` george anzinger
2002-10-17 21:54   ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-10-17 22:11     ` Robert Love
2002-10-18 13:11     ` mbs
2002-10-10  0:50 Dan Kegel
2002-10-10  1:33 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-10  3:55 ` Jeff Dike
2002-10-10  3:32   ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-10 12:34 ` mbs
2002-10-12 22:03 Jim Houston
2002-10-14  6:50 ` Ulrich Windl
2002-10-15 22:03   ` george anzinger
2002-10-19  1:02 Brad Bozarth

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