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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: top stack (l)users for 2.5.69
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:17:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EB95BD7.8060700@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1052332566.752437@palladium.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.53.0305070933450.11740@chaos>,
> Richard B. Johnson <root@chaos.analogic.com> wrote:
> 
>>You know (I hope) that allocating stuff on the stack is not
>>"bad". 
> 
> 
> Allocating stuff on the stack _is_ bad if you allocate more than a few
> hundred bytes. That's _especially_ true deep down in the call-sequence,
> ie in device drivers, low-level filesystems etc.
> 
> The kernel stack is a very limited resource, with no protection from
> overflow. Being lazy and using automatic variables is a BAD BAD thing,
> even if it's syntactically easy and generates good code.


Note that the problem is exacerbated if you have a bunch of disjoint 
stack scopes.  For that case, gcc will take the _sum_ of the stacks and 
not the union.  rth was kind enough to file gcc PR 9997 on this problem.

It is turning out to be fairly common problem in the various drivers' 
ioctl handlers.  Kernel hackers (myself included) often create automatic 
variables for each case in a C switch statement.  (and now I'm having to 
go back and fix that :))

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-07 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-07 13:20 top stack (l)users for 2.5.69 Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 13:45 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 13:56   ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 14:16     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 17:13       ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-05-07 17:40         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 18:12           ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 18:28             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 18:44               ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-07 18:46               ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 19:30                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 19:42                   ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 20:04                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 20:23                       ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 20:42                       ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-08  9:06                         ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-08 11:33                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-08 12:00                           ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-08 15:42                           ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-09  8:57                             ` Miles Bader
2003-05-09 16:50                               ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-08 16:47                           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 18:51               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 19:22                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 19:31                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 19:39                   ` Hua Zhong
2003-05-07 21:47                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-08 10:29           ` David Howells
2003-05-07 17:55         ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 16:20           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-07 19:01         ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-07 20:06           ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 20:14             ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-08  8:41               ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-08 16:51                 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-08 22:12                   ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 21:30         ` Jesse Pollard
2003-05-07 21:54           ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-07 22:01             ` Jesse Pollard
2003-05-07 14:33     ` Torsten Landschoff
2003-05-07 14:47       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 15:04         ` Torsten Landschoff
2003-05-07 16:01           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-08 15:36             ` Ingo Oeser
2003-05-08 18:04               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 15:23         ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-07 15:47           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 16:49         ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 17:18           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 17:40             ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 18:35               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 19:45                 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 18:23             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 17:38           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 17:47             ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 14:49       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 18:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-07 19:17     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-05-07 20:38       ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-07 21:27         ` Marcus Alanen
2003-05-07 21:27           ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-08 15:10         ` Ingo Oeser
2003-05-08 17:12           ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-07 19:38 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-08 14:08 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-08 18:04 ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-05-08 19:05   ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-08 21:00     ` Jonathan Lundell

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