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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Nicolas Mailhot <Nicolas.Mailhot@laPoste.net>,
	USB development list <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [Bug 1412] Copy from USB1 CF/SM reader stalls, no actual content is read (only directory structure)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:56:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FABEAF0.9060000@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031107082439.GB504@suse.de>

Jens Axboe wrote:
> No that looks alright, given you are allocating low memory pages. The
> devices can probably do full 32-bit dma I bet, though. 

Typically ... most usb host controllers you'll see are on
PCI (OHCI, UHCI, EHCI) with no restrictions, and only some
EHCI controllers can do 64-bit DMA.  That's all visible in
the the dma_mask for each interface in the device with the
mass storage support, usually still at its "32-bit dma is ok"
pci controller default.

But it seems that most current 2.6 DMA API implementations
have some problems in those areas.  See for example:

   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=106746453218943&w=2
   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=106789996221347&w=2

That second patch is a partial workaround for the first patch
presumably not getting applied before 2.6.0-final.  Net result,
some systems with gobs of memory and no IOMMU may do needless
buffer copies during USB I/O.

Though a quick glance suggested to me that SCSI infrastructure
is consulting dma_mask directly, instead of using the DMA API
calls which do that.  I'm not sure I'd trust it to be any
more correct, given GIGO ...

- Dave


      parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-07 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1067633171.3886.1.camel@m70.net81-64-235.noos.fr>
2003-11-01 15:47 ` [Bug 1412] Copy from USB1 CF/SM reader stalls, no actual content is read (only directory structure) Alan Stern
2003-11-04  7:49   ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-04 17:33     ` Alan Stern
2003-11-05  8:40       ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-05 15:47         ` Alan Stern
2003-11-07  8:24           ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-07  8:50             ` Nicolas Mailhot
2003-11-07  9:09               ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-07  9:25                 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2003-11-07 21:02                   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2003-11-07 21:03                     ` Nicolas Mailhot
2003-11-07 21:22                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-07 15:48             ` Alan Stern
2003-11-07 21:22               ` Jens Axboe
2003-11-07 18:56             ` David Brownell [this message]

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