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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] PKS write protected page tables
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:10:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b3c941f1fb69d67706457a30cecc96bfde57353.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202403140927.5A5F290@keescook>

On Thu, 2024-03-14 at 09:27 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 04:59:08PM -0700, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> > This is a second RFC for the PKS write protected tables concept.
> > I'm sharing to
> > show the progress to interested people. I'd also appreciate any
> > comments,
> > especially on the direct map page table protection solution (patch
> > 17).
> 
> *thread necromancy*
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where does this series stand? I don't think it ever got merged?

There are sort of three components to this:
1. Basic PKS support. It was dropped after the main use case was
rejected (pmem stray write protection).
2. Solution for applying direct map permissions efficiently. This
includes avoiding excessive kernel shootdowns, as well as avoiding
direct map fragmentation. rppt continued to look at the fragmentation
part of the problem and ended up arguing that it actually isn't an
issue [0]. Regardless, the shootdown problem remains for usages like
PKS tables that allocate so frequently. There is an attempt to address
both in this series. But given the above, there may be lots of debate
and opinions.
3. The actual protection of the PKS tables (most of this series). It
got paused when I started to work on CET. In the meantime 1 was
dropped, and 2 is still open(?). So there is more to work through now,
then when it was dropped.

If anyone wants to pick it up, it is fine by me. I can help with
reviews.


[0] https://lwn.net/Articles/931406/

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-14 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-30 23:59 [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] PKS write protected page tables Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] list: Support getting most recent element in list_lru Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] list: Support list head not in object for list_lru Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] x86/mm/cpa: Add grouped page allocations Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] mm: Explicitly zero page table lock ptr Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] x86, mm: Use cache of page tables Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-31  8:40   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-31 19:09     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] x86/mm/cpa: Add perm callbacks to grouped pages Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] x86/cpufeatures: Add feature for pks tables Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] x86/mm/cpa: Add get_grouped_page_atomic() Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] x86/mm: Support GFP_ATOMIC in alloc_table_node() Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-31  8:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] x86/mm: Use alloc_table() for fill_pte(), etc Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-31  8:47   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-31 18:48     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] mm/sparsemem: Use alloc_table() for table allocations Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-31  8:55   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-31 18:25     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2021-09-01  7:22       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-09-02 13:56         ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] x86/mm: Use free_table in unmap path Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] mm/debug_vm_page_table: Use setters instead of WRITE_ONCE Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] x86/efi: Toggle table protections when copying Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] x86/mm/cpa: Add set_memory_pks() Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] x86/mm: Protect page tables with PKS Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-31  8:56   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-31 17:55     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] x86/mm/cpa: PKS protect direct map page tables Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-31 10:14   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-31 17:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] x86/mm: Add PKS table soft mode Rick Edgecombe
2021-08-31  3:49   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-08-31 17:55     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2021-08-30 23:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] x86/mm: Add PKS table debug checking Rick Edgecombe
2024-03-14 16:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] PKS write protected page tables Kees Cook
2024-03-14 17:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2024-03-14 18:25     ` Ira Weiny
2024-03-16  3:14 ` Boris Lukashev

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