From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Ankur Arora" <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
"Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, "Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/39] x86/KVM: Xen HVM guest support
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:59:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ee91f33-2973-c2db-386f-afbf138081b4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b1f4912-4f92-69ae-ae01-d899d5640572@oracle.com>
On 21/02/19 12:45, Joao Martins wrote:
> On 2/20/19 9:09 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 20/02/19 21:15, Joao Martins wrote:
>>> 2. PV Driver support (patches 17 - 39)
>>>
>>> We start by redirecting hypercalls from the backend to routines
>>> which emulate the behaviour that PV backends expect i.e. grant
>>> table and interdomain events. Next, we add support for late
>>> initialization of xenbus, followed by implementing
>>> frontend/backend communication mechanisms (i.e. grant tables and
>>> interdomain event channels). Finally, introduce xen-shim.ko,
>>> which will setup a limited Xen environment. This uses the added
>>> functionality of Xen specific shared memory (grant tables) and
>>> notifications (event channels).
>>
>> I am a bit worried by the last patches, they seem really brittle and
>> prone to breakage. I don't know Xen well enough to understand if the
>> lack of support for GNTMAP_host_map is fixable, but if not, you have to
>> define a completely different hypercall.
>>
> I guess Ankur already answered this; so just to stack this on top of his comment.
>
> The xen_shim_domain() is only meant to handle the case where the backend
> has/can-have full access to guest memory [i.e. netback and blkback would work
> with similar assumptions as vhost?]. For the normal case, where a backend *in a
> guest* maps and unmaps other guest memory, this is not applicable and these
> changes don't affect that case.
>
> IOW, the PV backend here sits on the hypervisor, and the hypercalls aren't
> actual hypercalls but rather invoking shim_hypercall(). The call chain would go
> more or less like:
>
> <netback|blkback|scsiback>
> gnttab_map_refs(map_ops, pages)
> HYPERVISOR_grant_table_op(GNTTABOP_map_grant_ref,...)
> shim_hypercall()
> shim_hcall_gntmap()
>
> Our reasoning was that given we are already in KVM, why mapping a page if the
> user (i.e. the kernel PV backend) is himself? The lack of GNTMAP_host_map is how
> the shim determines its user doesn't want to map the page. Also, there's another
> issue where PV backends always need a struct page to reference the device
> inflight data as Ankur pointed out.
Ultimately it's up to the Xen people. It does make their API uglier,
especially the in/out change for the parameter. If you can at least
avoid that, it would alleviate my concerns quite a bit.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-22 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-20 20:15 [PATCH RFC 00/39] x86/KVM: Xen HVM guest support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 01/39] KVM: x86: fix Xen hypercall page msr handling Joao Martins
2019-02-22 1:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-02-22 11:47 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-22 12:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 10:39 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 11:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 11:27 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 02/39] KVM: x86/xen: intercept xen hypercalls if enabled Joao Martins
2019-02-21 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-02-21 20:56 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-22 0:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-02-22 12:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 9:48 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-01 11:19 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 11:17 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 12:12 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 5:19 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-02 8:03 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 18:20 ` Ankur Arora
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 03/39] KVM: x86/xen: register shared_info page Joao Martins
2020-12-01 13:07 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 0:40 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-02 1:26 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 5:17 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-02 10:50 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 10:44 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 12:20 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 20:32 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-03 10:16 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-04 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-02 20:33 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-12 12:07 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 04/39] KVM: x86/xen: setup pvclock updates Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 05/39] KVM: x86/xen: update wallclock region Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 06/39] KVM: x86/xen: register vcpu info Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 07/39] KVM: x86/xen: register vcpu time info region Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 08/39] KVM: x86/xen: register steal clock Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 09/39] KVM: x86: declare Xen HVM guest capability Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 10/39] KVM: x86/xen: support upcall vector Joao Martins
2020-12-02 11:17 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 13:12 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 16:47 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 18:34 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 19:02 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-02 20:12 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-02 20:37 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-03 1:08 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-08 16:08 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 6:35 ` Ankur Arora
2020-12-09 10:27 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 10:51 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 11:39 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 13:26 ` Joao Martins
2020-12-09 15:41 ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-09 16:12 ` Joao Martins
2021-01-01 14:33 ` David Woodhouse
2021-01-05 12:11 ` Joao Martins
2021-01-05 13:23 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 11/39] KVM: x86/xen: evtchn signaling via eventfd Joao Martins
2020-11-30 9:41 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 12:17 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 12:55 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 15:08 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 16:48 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 17:15 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 18:01 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 18:41 ` Joao Martins
2020-11-30 19:04 ` David Woodhouse
2020-11-30 19:25 ` Joao Martins
2021-11-23 13:15 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 12/39] KVM: x86/xen: store virq when assigning evtchn Joao Martins
[not found] ` <b750291466f3c89e0a393e48079c087704b217a5.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2022-02-10 12:17 ` Joao Martins
2022-02-10 15:23 ` [EXTERNAL] " David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 13/39] KVM: x86/xen: handle PV timers oneshot mode Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 14/39] KVM: x86/xen: handle PV IPI vcpu yield Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 15/39] KVM: x86/xen: handle PV spinlocks slowpath Joao Martins
2022-02-08 12:36 ` David Woodhouse
2022-02-10 12:17 ` Joao Martins
2022-02-10 14:11 ` David Woodhouse
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 16/39] KVM: x86: declare Xen HVM evtchn offload capability Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 17/39] x86/xen: export vcpu_info and shared_info Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 18/39] x86/xen: make hypercall_page generic Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 19/39] xen/xenbus: xenbus uninit support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 20/39] xen-blkback: module_exit support Joao Martins
2019-02-25 18:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2019-02-26 11:20 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 21/39] KVM: x86/xen: domid allocation Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 22/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant table init Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 23/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant table grow support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 24/39] KVM: x86/xen: backend hypercall support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 25/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant map support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 26/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant unmap support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 27/39] KVM: x86/xen: grant copy support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 28/39] KVM: x86/xen: interdomain evtchn support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:15 ` [PATCH RFC 29/39] KVM: x86/xen: evtchn unmask support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 30/39] KVM: x86/xen: add additional evtchn ops Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 31/39] xen-shim: introduce shim domain driver Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 32/39] xen/balloon: xen_shim_domain() support Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 33/39] xen/grant-table: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 34/39] xen/gntdev: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 35/39] xen/xenbus: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 36/39] drivers/xen: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 37/39] xen-netback: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 38/39] xen-blkback: " Joao Martins
2019-02-20 20:16 ` [PATCH RFC 39/39] KVM: x86: declare Xen HVM Dom0 capability Joao Martins
2019-02-20 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 00/39] x86/KVM: Xen HVM guest support Paolo Bonzini
2019-02-21 0:29 ` Ankur Arora
2019-02-21 11:45 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-22 16:59 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2019-03-12 17:14 ` Joao Martins
2019-04-08 6:44 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-08 10:36 ` Joao Martins
2019-04-08 10:42 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-08 17:31 ` Joao Martins
2019-04-09 0:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-04-10 5:50 ` [Xen-devel] " Ankur Arora
2019-04-10 20:45 ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-04-09 5:04 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-10 6:55 ` Ankur Arora
2019-04-10 7:14 ` Juergen Gross
2019-02-20 23:39 ` [Xen-devel] " Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2019-02-21 0:31 ` Ankur Arora
2019-02-21 7:57 ` Juergen Gross
2019-02-21 12:00 ` Joao Martins
2019-02-21 11:55 ` Joao Martins
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