From: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux@armlinux.org.uk, sza@esh.hu,
arnd@arndb.de, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, alexandre.torgue@st.com,
benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org, kbuild-all@01.org,
Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/7] drivers: dma-coherent: Introduce default DMA pool
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:08:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40b98143-ef56-de79-06f8-499d9b3fbf8d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170626094250.GB21570@infradead.org>
On 26/06/17 10:42, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 03:24:21PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> True, but the case here is where we need a special piece of coherent
>> memory for *all* devices, and it was more complicated *not* to reuse the
>> existing infrastructure. This would already be achievable by specifying
>> a separate rmem carveout per device, but the shared pool just makes life
>> easier, and mirrors the functionality dma-contiguous already supports.
>
> І'm really worried about the code in dma-coherent.c - the original
> version clearly intends to have a coherent pool per device, declared
> in the driver. Then Marek added the reserved_mem interface, and
> now we get another variant of it. Conceptually the per-device
> and global pool are very different, and to me it seems like the
> reserved mem should be a different interface.
>
>>> If you're allocating out of the global allocator the memory should
>>> come from the normal dma_ops ->alloc allocator - and also take
>>> the attrs into account (e.g. for DMA_ATTR_NON_CONSISTENT or
>>> DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING requests you don't need coherent memory)
>>
>> The context here is noMMU but with caches - the problem being that the
>> normal allocator will give back kernel memory, and there's no way to
>> make that coherent with devices short of not enabling the caches in the
>> first place, which is obviously undesirable. The trick is that RAM is
>> aliased (in hardware) at two addresses, one of which makes CPU accesses
>> non-cacheable, so by only ever accessing the RAM set aside for the
>> coherent DMA pool using the non-cacheable alias (represented by the
>> dma_pfn_offset) we can achieve DMA coherency.
>
> Yes, and I think this is something we already have to deal with
> for example on mips. A simple genalloc allocator from your pool
> in the normal dma_ops implementation should do the work just fine.
>
Are you proposing keeping pool handling under arch?
Cheers
Vladimir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-26 14:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-24 10:24 [PATCH v5 0/7] ARM: Fix dma_alloc_coherent() and friends for NOMMU Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] dma: Take into account dma_pfn_offset Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 12:47 ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] dma: Add simple dma_noop_mmap Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 12:46 ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-26 9:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] drivers: dma-coherent: Account dma_pfn_offset when used with device tree Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-20 13:50 ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-26 9:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 12:59 ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] drivers: dma-coherent: Introduce default DMA pool Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-20 14:24 ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-26 9:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-26 14:08 ` Vladimir Murzin [this message]
2017-06-27 14:36 ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-27 15:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 13:18 ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-26 9:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] ARM: NOMMU: Introduce dma operations for noMMU Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] ARM: NOMMU: Set ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE for M-class cpus Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] ARM: dma-mapping: Remove traces of NOMMU code Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-08 8:28 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] ARM: Fix dma_alloc_coherent() and friends for NOMMU Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-08 16:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-15 7:25 ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 12:59 ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=40b98143-ef56-de79-06f8-499d9b3fbf8d@arm.com \
--to=vladimir.murzin@arm.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=alexandre.torgue@st.com \
--cc=arnd@arndb.de \
--cc=benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=hch@infradead.org \
--cc=kbuild-all@01.org \
--cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux@armlinux.org.uk \
--cc=m.szyprowski@samsung.com \
--cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
--cc=mina86@mina86.com \
--cc=robh+dt@kernel.org \
--cc=robin.murphy@arm.com \
--cc=sza@esh.hu \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).