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From: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux@armlinux.org.uk, sza@esh.hu,
	arnd@arndb.de, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, alexandre.torgue@st.com,
	benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org, kbuild-all@01.org,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/7] drivers: dma-coherent: Introduce default DMA pool
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:08:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40b98143-ef56-de79-06f8-499d9b3fbf8d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170626094250.GB21570@infradead.org>

On 26/06/17 10:42, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 03:24:21PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> True, but the case here is where we need a special piece of coherent
>> memory for *all* devices, and it was more complicated *not* to reuse the
>> existing infrastructure. This would already be achievable by specifying
>> a separate rmem carveout per device, but the shared pool just makes life
>> easier, and mirrors the functionality dma-contiguous already supports.
> 
> І'm really worried about the code in dma-coherent.c - the original
> version clearly intends to have a coherent pool per device, declared
> in the driver.  Then Marek added the reserved_mem interface, and
> now we get another variant of it.  Conceptually the per-device
> and global pool are very different, and to me it seems like the
> reserved mem should be a different interface.
> 
>>> If you're allocating out of the global allocator the memory should
>>> come from the normal dma_ops ->alloc allocator - and also take
>>> the attrs into account (e.g. for DMA_ATTR_NON_CONSISTENT or
>>> DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING requests you don't need coherent memory)
>>
>> The context here is noMMU but with caches - the problem being that the
>> normal allocator will give back kernel memory, and there's no way to
>> make that coherent with devices short of not enabling the caches in the
>> first place, which is obviously undesirable. The trick is that RAM is
>> aliased (in hardware) at two addresses, one of which makes CPU accesses
>> non-cacheable, so by only ever accessing the RAM set aside for the
>> coherent DMA pool using the non-cacheable alias (represented by the
>> dma_pfn_offset) we can achieve DMA coherency.
> 
> Yes, and I think this is something we already have to deal with
> for example on mips.  A simple genalloc allocator from your pool
> in the normal dma_ops implementation should do the work just fine.
> 

Are you proposing keeping pool handling under arch?

Cheers
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-26 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-24 10:24 [PATCH v5 0/7] ARM: Fix dma_alloc_coherent() and friends for NOMMU Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] dma: Take into account dma_pfn_offset Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 12:47     ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] dma: Add simple dma_noop_mmap Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 12:46     ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-26  9:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] drivers: dma-coherent: Account dma_pfn_offset when used with device tree Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-20 13:50     ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-26  9:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 12:59     ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] drivers: dma-coherent: Introduce default DMA pool Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-20 14:24     ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-26  9:42       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-26 14:08         ` Vladimir Murzin [this message]
2017-06-27 14:36         ` Robin Murphy
2017-06-27 15:22           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-22 13:18     ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-26  9:44       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] ARM: NOMMU: Introduce dma operations for noMMU Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] ARM: NOMMU: Set ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE for M-class cpus Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] ARM: dma-mapping: Remove traces of NOMMU code Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-08  8:28 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] ARM: Fix dma_alloc_coherent() and friends for NOMMU Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-08 16:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-15  7:25     ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 12:59       ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-06-20 13:00         ` Christoph Hellwig

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