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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Cc: dwalker@mvista.com, cpufreq@lists.linux.org.uk,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	paulus@au.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Stolen and degraded time and schedulers
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:18:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F866AF.9060609@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45F85F43.9030803@vmware.com>

Dan Hecht wrote:
> On 03/14/2007 01:31 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>> Dan Hecht wrote:
>>> Sounds good.  I don't see this in your patchset you sent yesterday
>>> though; did you add it after sending out those patches?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>   if so, could you forward the new patch?  does it explicitly prevent
>>> stolen time from getting accounted as  user/system time or does it
>>> just rely on NO_HZ mode sort of happening to work that way (since the
>>> one shot timer is skipped ahead for missed ticks)?
>>
>> Hm, not sure.  It doesn't care how often it gets called; it just
>> accumulates results up to that point, but I'm not sure if the time would
>> get double accounted.  Perhaps it doesn't matter when using
>> xen_sched_clock().
>>
>
> I think you might be double counting time in some cases. 
> sched_clock() isn't really relevant to stolen time accounting (i.e.
> cpustat->steal).
>
> I think what you want is to make sure that the sum of the cputime
> passed to all of:
>
> account_user_time
> account_system_time
> account_steal_time
>
> adds up to the total amount of time that has passed.  I think it is
> sort of working for you (i.e. doesn't always double count stolen
> ticks) since in NO_HZ mode, update_process_time (which calls
> account_user_time & account_system_time) happens to be skipped during
> periods of stolen time due to the hrtimer_forward()'ing of the one
> shot expiry. 

OK, this will need a closer look.

BTW, what are the properties of the vmi read_available_cycles()?  Is
that a per-cpu timer?  If its used as the timebase for sched_clock, how
does recalc_task_prio not get a -ve sleep time?


    J

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-14 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-13 16:31 Stolen and degraded time and schedulers Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 20:12 ` john stultz
2007-03-13 20:32   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 21:27     ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-13 21:59       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14  0:43         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14  4:37           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 13:58             ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 15:08               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 15:12                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 19:02             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14 19:34               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 19:45                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-14 19:47                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 20:02                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-14 20:26                 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14 20:31                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 20:46                     ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-14 21:18                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-03-15 19:09                         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-15 19:18                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15 19:48                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-15 19:53                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15 20:07                             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-15 20:14                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-15 20:35                                 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-16  8:59                                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-03-14 20:38                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:59                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  8:38                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:53                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-15  5:23                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-15 19:33                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14  2:00         ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14  6:52           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14  8:20             ` Zan Lynx
2007-03-14 16:11             ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 16:37               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 16:59                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 17:08                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 18:06                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 18:41                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 19:00                         ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 19:44                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 20:33                             ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 21:16                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 21:34                                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-14 21:42                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 21:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-14 21:38   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 21:40   ` Con Kolivas

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