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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/3] add the fsblock layer
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:07:43 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <468082FF.6090704@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18048.32372.40011.10896@notabene.brown>

Neil Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday June 26, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au wrote:
> 
>>Chris Mason wrote:
>>
>>>The block device pagecache isn't special, and certainly isn't that much
>>>code.  I would suggest keeping it buffer head specific and making a
>>>second variant that does only fsblocks.  This is mostly to keep the
>>>semantics of PagePrivate sane, lets not fuzz the line.
>>
>>That would require a new inode and address_space for the fsblock
>>type blockdev pagecache, wouldn't it? I just can't think of a
>>better non-intrusive way of allowing a buffer_head filesystem and
>>an fsblock filesystem to live on the same blkdev together.
> 
> 
> I don't think they would ever try to.  Both filesystems would bd_claim
> the blkdev, and only one would win.

Hmm OK, I might have confused myself thinking about partitions...

> The issue is more of a filesystem sharing a blockdev with the
> block-special device (i.e. open("/dev/sda1"), read) isn't it?
> 
> If a filesystem wants to attach information to the blockdev pagecache
> that is different to what blockdev want to attach, then I think "Yes"
> - a new inode and address space is what it needs to create.
> 
> Then you get into consistency issues between the metadata and direct
> blockdevice access.  Do we care about those?

Yeah that issue is definitely a real one. The problem is not just
consistency, but "how do the block device aops even know that the
PG_private page they have has buffer heads or fsblocks", so it is
an oopsable condition rather than just a plain consistency issue
(consistency is already not guaranteed).

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-26  3:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-24  1:45 [RFC] fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:46 ` [patch 1/3] add the fsblock layer Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 15:28   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-24 20:18     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  8:58       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-25  7:19     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 23:01   ` Neil Brown
2007-06-25  7:41     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 12:29       ` Chris Mason
2007-06-26  2:34         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26  2:48           ` Neil Brown
2007-06-26  3:07             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-06-26 12:26               ` Chris Mason
2007-06-30 10:40                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-25 13:19   ` Chris Mason
2007-06-26  2:42     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:46 ` [patch 2/3] block_dev: convert to fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:47 ` [patch 3/3] minix: " Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:53 ` [RFC] fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  3:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-24  3:47   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 13:51     ` Chris Mason
2007-06-25  6:58       ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 12:25         ` Chris Mason
2007-06-30 10:44           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 11:10     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 11:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-24  4:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-24 14:16 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-25  7:16   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26  3:06 ` David Chinner
2007-06-26  3:55   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26  9:23     ` David Chinner
2007-06-26 11:14       ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 12:39         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-26 12:34       ` Chris Mason
2007-06-27  5:32         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27  6:05           ` David Chinner
2007-06-27 11:50           ` Chris Mason
2007-06-27 15:18             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-06-27 22:35             ` David Chinner
2007-06-28  2:44               ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-28 12:20                 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-29  2:08                   ` David Chinner
2007-06-29  2:33                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-30 11:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-09 17:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  0:54   ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  0:59     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  1:07       ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  1:37       ` Dave McCracken

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