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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] fsblock
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:59:47 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707091756020.2348@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070710005419.GB8779@wotan.suse.de>

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:

> > Hmmm.... I did not notice that yet but then I have not done much work 
> > there.
> 
> Notice what?

The bad code for the buffer heads.

> > > - A real "nobh" mode. nobh was created I think mainly to avoid problems
> > >   with buffer_head memory consumption, especially on lowmem machines. It
> > >   is basically a hack (sorry), which requires special code in filesystems,
> > >   and duplication of quite a bit of tricky buffer layer code (and bugs).
> > >   It also doesn't work so well for buffers with non-trivial private data
> > >   (like most journalling ones). fsblock implements this with basically a
> > >   few lines of code, and it shold work in situations like ext3.
> > 
> > Hmmm.... That means simply page struct are not working...
> 
> I don't understand you. jbd needs to attach private data to each bh, and
> that can stay around for longer than the life of the page in the pagecache.

Right. So just using page struct alone wont work for the filesystems.

> There are no changes to the filesystem API for large pages (although I
> am adding a couple of helpers to do page based bitmap ops). And I don't
> want to rely on contiguous memory. Why do you think handling of large
> pages (presumably you mean larger than page sized blocks) is strange?

We already have a way to handle large pages: Compound pages.

> Conglomerating the constituent pages via the pagecache radix-tree seems
> logical to me.

Meaning overhead to handle each page still exists? This scheme cannot 
handle large contiguous blocks as a single entity?


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-10  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-24  1:45 [RFC] fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:46 ` [patch 1/3] add the fsblock layer Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 15:28   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-24 20:18     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25  8:58       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-25  7:19     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 23:01   ` Neil Brown
2007-06-25  7:41     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 12:29       ` Chris Mason
2007-06-26  2:34         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26  2:48           ` Neil Brown
2007-06-26  3:07             ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 12:26               ` Chris Mason
2007-06-30 10:40                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-25 13:19   ` Chris Mason
2007-06-26  2:42     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:46 ` [patch 2/3] block_dev: convert to fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:47 ` [patch 3/3] minix: " Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  1:53 ` [RFC] fsblock Nick Piggin
2007-06-24  3:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-24  3:47   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-24 13:51     ` Chris Mason
2007-06-25  6:58       ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-25 12:25         ` Chris Mason
2007-06-30 10:44           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 10:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-30 11:10     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 11:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-24  4:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-24 14:16 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-25  7:16   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26  3:06 ` David Chinner
2007-06-26  3:55   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26  9:23     ` David Chinner
2007-06-26 11:14       ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 12:39         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-26 12:34       ` Chris Mason
2007-06-27  5:32         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27  6:05           ` David Chinner
2007-06-27 11:50           ` Chris Mason
2007-06-27 15:18             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-06-27 22:35             ` David Chinner
2007-06-28  2:44               ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-28 12:20                 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-29  2:08                   ` David Chinner
2007-06-29  2:33                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-30 11:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-09 17:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  0:54   ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  0:59     ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2007-07-10  1:07       ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  1:37       ` Dave McCracken

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