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From: Benjamin GAIGNARD <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"viresh.kumar@linaro.org" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Hugues FRUCHET <hugues.fruchet@st.com>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com" <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 12:48:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51917583-f8ff-3933-7783-2eedc91484a4@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBt6Ju-CnETnn6_FkgR0CAJ+jYnySz9OHP9X2hmxWHM7w@mail.gmail.com>



On 5/27/20 2:22 PM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 13:17, Benjamin GAIGNARD
> <benjamin.gaignard@st.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 5/27/20 12:09 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>> Hi Benjamin,
>>>
>>> On 26/05/20 16:16, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
>>>> A first round [1] of discussions and suggestions have already be done on
>>>> this series but without found a solution to the problem. I resend it to
>>>> progress on this topic.
>>>>
>>> Apologies for sleeping on that previous thread.
>>>
>>> So what had been suggested over there was to use uclamp to boost the
>>> frequency of the handling thread; however if you use threaded IRQs you
>>> get RT threads, which already get the max frequency by default (at least
>>> with schedutil).
>>>
>>> Does that not work for you, and if so, why?
>> That doesn't work because almost everything is done by the hardware blocks
>> without charge the CPU so the thread isn't running. I have done the
>> tests with schedutil
>> and ondemand scheduler (which is the one I'm targeting). I have no
>> issues when using
>> performance scheduler because it always keep the highest frequencies.
> IMHO, the only way to ensure a min frequency for anything else than a
> thread is to use freq_qos_add_request() just like cpufreq cooling
> device but for the opposite QoS. This can be applied only on the
> frequency domain of the CPU which handles the interrupt.
I will give a try with this idea.
Thanks.
> Have you also checked the wakeup latency of your idle state ?
It just could go in WFI so latency should be minimal.
>
>>
>>>> When start streaming from the sensor the CPU load could remain very low
>>>> because almost all the capture pipeline is done in hardware (i.e. without
>>>> using the CPU) and let believe to cpufreq governor that it could use lower
>>>> frequencies. If the governor decides to use a too low frequency that
>>>> becomes a problem when we need to acknowledge the interrupt during the
>>>> blanking time.
>>>> The delay to ack the interrupt and perform all the other actions before
>>>> the next frame is very short and doesn't allow to the cpufreq governor to
>>>> provide the required burst of power. That led to drop the half of the frames.
>>>>
>>>> To avoid this problem, DCMI driver informs the cpufreq governors by adding
>>>> a cpufreq minimum load QoS resquest.
>>>>
>>>> Benjamin
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/4/24/360
>>>>
>>>> Benjamin Gaignard (3):
>>>>     PM: QoS: Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
>>>>     cpufreq: governor: Use minimum load QoS
>>>>     media: stm32-dcmi: Inform cpufreq governors about cpu load needs
>>>>
>>>>    drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_governor.c        |   5 +
>>>>    drivers/media/platform/stm32/stm32-dcmi.c |   8 ++
>>>>    include/linux/pm_qos.h                    |  12 ++
>>>>    kernel/power/qos.c                        | 213 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>    4 files changed, 238 insertions(+)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-27 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26 15:16 [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 1/3] PM: QoS: " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 2/3] cpufreq: governor: Use " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 3/3] media: stm32-dcmi: Inform cpufreq governors about cpu load needs Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-27 10:09 ` [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 11:17   ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 12:14     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 13:11       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 15:02         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 12:22     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-05-27 12:48       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD [this message]
2020-05-27 14:54         ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 15:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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