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From: Benjamin GAIGNARD <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"viresh.kumar@linaro.org" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Hugues FRUCHET <hugues.fruchet@st.com>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com" <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"pavel@ucw.cz" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 14:54:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe69390f-ea8c-b6e3-7610-d6bd73e8500d@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51917583-f8ff-3933-7783-2eedc91484a4@st.com>



On 5/27/20 2:48 PM, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
>
>
> On 5/27/20 2:22 PM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 13:17, Benjamin GAIGNARD
>> <benjamin.gaignard@st.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/27/20 12:09 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>>> Hi Benjamin,
>>>>
>>>> On 26/05/20 16:16, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
>>>>> A first round [1] of discussions and suggestions have already be 
>>>>> done on
>>>>> this series but without found a solution to the problem. I resend 
>>>>> it to
>>>>> progress on this topic.
>>>>>
>>>> Apologies for sleeping on that previous thread.
>>>>
>>>> So what had been suggested over there was to use uclamp to boost the
>>>> frequency of the handling thread; however if you use threaded IRQs you
>>>> get RT threads, which already get the max frequency by default (at 
>>>> least
>>>> with schedutil).
>>>>
>>>> Does that not work for you, and if so, why?
>>> That doesn't work because almost everything is done by the hardware 
>>> blocks
>>> without charge the CPU so the thread isn't running. I have done the
>>> tests with schedutil
>>> and ondemand scheduler (which is the one I'm targeting). I have no
>>> issues when using
>>> performance scheduler because it always keep the highest frequencies.
>> IMHO, the only way to ensure a min frequency for anything else than a
>> thread is to use freq_qos_add_request() just like cpufreq cooling
>> device but for the opposite QoS. This can be applied only on the
>> frequency domain of the CPU which handles the interrupt.
> I will give a try with this idea.
> Thanks.

Adding freq_qos_add_request(FREQ_QOS_MIN) when starting streaming frames
solve my problem. I remove the request at the end of the streaming to 
restore
the default value.

Benjamin


>> Have you also checked the wakeup latency of your idle state ?
> It just could go in WFI so latency should be minimal.
>>
>>>
>>>>> When start streaming from the sensor the CPU load could remain 
>>>>> very low
>>>>> because almost all the capture pipeline is done in hardware (i.e. 
>>>>> without
>>>>> using the CPU) and let believe to cpufreq governor that it could 
>>>>> use lower
>>>>> frequencies. If the governor decides to use a too low frequency that
>>>>> becomes a problem when we need to acknowledge the interrupt during 
>>>>> the
>>>>> blanking time.
>>>>> The delay to ack the interrupt and perform all the other actions 
>>>>> before
>>>>> the next frame is very short and doesn't allow to the cpufreq 
>>>>> governor to
>>>>> provide the required burst of power. That led to drop the half of 
>>>>> the frames.
>>>>>
>>>>> To avoid this problem, DCMI driver informs the cpufreq governors 
>>>>> by adding
>>>>> a cpufreq minimum load QoS resquest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/4/24/360
>>>>>
>>>>> Benjamin Gaignard (3):
>>>>>     PM: QoS: Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
>>>>>     cpufreq: governor: Use minimum load QoS
>>>>>     media: stm32-dcmi: Inform cpufreq governors about cpu load needs
>>>>>
>>>>>    drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_governor.c        |   5 +
>>>>>    drivers/media/platform/stm32/stm32-dcmi.c |   8 ++
>>>>>    include/linux/pm_qos.h                    |  12 ++
>>>>>    kernel/power/qos.c                        | 213 
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>    4 files changed, 238 insertions(+)
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-27 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26 15:16 [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 1/3] PM: QoS: " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 2/3] cpufreq: governor: Use " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 3/3] media: stm32-dcmi: Inform cpufreq governors about cpu load needs Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-27 10:09 ` [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 11:17   ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 12:14     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 13:11       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 15:02         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 12:22     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-05-27 12:48       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 14:54         ` Benjamin GAIGNARD [this message]
2020-05-27 15:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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