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From: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: jgg@nvidia.com, robin.murphy@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, yi.l.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 02/14] iommufd: Add nesting related data structures for ARM SMMUv3
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:33:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5288c0e9-b806-370d-e7de-8d69d5b8e902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230309134217.GA1673607@myrica>

Hi,
On 3/9/23 14:42, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> Hi Nicolin,
>
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 02:53:38AM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
>> Add the following data structures for corresponding ioctls:
>>                iommu_hwpt_arm_smmuv3 => IOMMUFD_CMD_HWPT_ALLOC
>>     iommu_hwpt_invalidate_arm_smmuv3 => IOMMUFD_CMD_HWPT_INVALIDATE
>>
>> Also, add IOMMU_HW_INFO_TYPE_ARM_SMMUV3 and IOMMU_PGTBL_TYPE_ARM_SMMUV3_S1
>> to the header and corresponding type/size arrays.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
>> +/**
>> + * struct iommu_hwpt_arm_smmuv3 - ARM SMMUv3 specific page table data
>> + *
>> + * @flags: page table entry attributes
>> + * @s2vmid: Virtual machine identifier
>> + * @s1ctxptr: Stage-1 context descriptor pointer
>> + * @s1cdmax: Number of CDs pointed to by s1ContextPtr
>> + * @s1fmt: Stage-1 Format
>> + * @s1dss: Default substream
>> + */
>> +struct iommu_hwpt_arm_smmuv3 {
>> +#define IOMMU_SMMUV3_FLAG_S2	(1 << 0) /* if unset, stage-1 */
> I don't understand the purpose of this flag, since the structure only
> provides stage-1 configuration fields
>
>> +#define IOMMU_SMMUV3_FLAG_VMID	(1 << 1) /* vmid override */
> Doesn't this break isolation?  The VMID space is global for the SMMU, so
> the guest could access cached mappings of another device
>
>> +	__u64 flags;
>> +	__u32 s2vmid;
>> +	__u32 __reserved;
>> +	__u64 s1ctxptr;
>> +	__u64 s1cdmax;
>> +	__u64 s1fmt;
>> +	__u64 s1dss;
>> +};
>> +
>
>> +/**
>> + * struct iommu_hwpt_invalidate_arm_smmuv3 - ARM SMMUv3 cahce invalidation info
>> + * @flags: boolean attributes of cache invalidation command
>> + * @opcode: opcode of cache invalidation command
>> + * @ssid: SubStream ID
>> + * @granule_size: page/block size of the mapping in bytes
>> + * @range: IOVA range to invalidate
>> + */
>> +struct iommu_hwpt_invalidate_arm_smmuv3 {
>> +#define IOMMU_SMMUV3_CMDQ_TLBI_VA_LEAF	(1 << 0)
>> +	__u64 flags;
>> +	__u8 opcode;
>> +	__u8 padding[3];
>> +	__u32 asid;
>> +	__u32 ssid;
>> +	__u32 granule_size;
>> +	struct iommu_iova_range range;
>> +};
> Although we can keep the alloc and hardware info separate for each IOMMU
> architecture, we should try to come up with common invalidation methods.
>
> It matters because things like vSVA, or just efficient dynamic mappings,
> will require optimal invalidation latency. A paravirtual interface like
> vhost-iommu can help with that, as the host kernel will handle guest
> invalidations directly instead of doing a round-trip to host userspace
> (and we'll likely want the same path for PRI.)
>
> Supporting HW page tables for a common PV IOMMU does require some
> architecture-specific knowledge, but invalidation messages contain roughly
> the same information on all architectures. The PV IOMMU won't include
> command opcodes for each possible architecture if one generic command does
> the same job.
>
> Ideally I'd like something like this for vhost-iommu:
>
> * slow path through userspace for complex requests like attach-table and
>   probe, where the VMM can decode arch-specific information and translate
>   them to iommufd and vhost-iommu ioctls to update the configuration.
>
> * fast path within the kernel for performance-critical requests like
>   invalidate, page request and response. It would be absurd for the
>   vhost-iommu driver to translate generic invalidation requests from the
>   guest into arch-specific commands with special opcodes, when the next
>   step is calling the IOMMU driver which does that for free.
>
> During previous discussions we came up with generic invalidations that
> could fit both Arm and x86 [1][2]. The only difference was the ASID
> (called archid/id in those proposals) which VT-d didn't need. Could we try
> to build on that?

I do agree with Jean. We spent a lot of efforts all together to define
this generic invalidation API and if there is compelling reason that
prevents from using it, we should try to reuse it.

Thanks

Eric
>
> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.17/source/include/uapi/linux/iommu.h#L161
> [2] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-dev/202102/msg00014.html
>
> Thanks,
> Jean
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-09 10:53 [PATCH v1 00/14] Add Nested Translation Support for SMMUv3 Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] iommu: Add iommu_get_unmanaged_domain helper Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 12:51   ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-09 14:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-09 19:04       ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-10  0:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10  8:41     ` Eric Auger
2023-03-10 15:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-16  1:21         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-16 18:42           ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-16 20:01             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 12:51             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10 10:14   ` Eric Auger
2023-03-10 15:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10 15:44       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-10 15:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10 16:07           ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-10 16:21             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10 16:30               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-10 17:03                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22 16:07                   ` Eric Auger
2023-03-22 17:02                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22 17:41                       ` Eric Auger
2023-03-22 18:07                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-16 19:51                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-16 19:56                   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-22 15:44                     ` Eric Auger
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] iommufd: Add nesting related data structures for ARM SMMUv3 Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 13:42   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-03-09 14:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-09 18:26       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-03-09 21:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10 12:16           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-03-10 14:52           ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-10 15:25             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10 15:57               ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-10 16:03                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-17 10:10                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-17 10:04                 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-10  4:50       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 12:54         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-03-10 14:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10 16:06         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-16  0:59           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 15:26     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-09 15:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-09 15:51         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-09 15:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-09 16:07             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-10  5:26               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10  5:36                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 12:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10  5:18         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10  5:04     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 11:33     ` Eric Auger [this message]
2023-03-10 12:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-17 10:17         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] iommufd/device: Setup MSI on kernel-managed domains Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 16:45   ` Eric Auger
2023-03-11  0:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_hw_info Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 13:03   ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-10  1:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 15:28       ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-16  0:13         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-16 15:19           ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-16 20:06             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-04-12  7:47               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Remove ARM_SMMU_DOMAIN_NESTED Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 16:39   ` Eric Auger
2023-03-10 17:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-11  0:24       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-11  0:23     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Unset corresponding STE fields when s2_cfg is NULL Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 13:13   ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-09 18:24     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-03-10  1:54       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add STRTAB_STE_0_CFG_NESTED for 2-stage translation Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Prepare for nested domain support Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 20:39   ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-11 12:40     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement arm_smmu_get_unmanaged_domain Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Pass in user_cfg to arm_smmu_domain_finalise Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_domain_alloc_user Nicolin Chen
2023-03-24 15:28   ` Eric Auger
2023-03-24 17:40     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-24 17:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-24 18:00         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-24 15:33   ` Eric Auger
2023-03-24 17:43     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Support IOMMU_DOMAIN_NESTED type of allocations Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 13:20   ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-09 14:28     ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-10  1:34       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-24 15:44   ` Eric Auger
2023-03-24 16:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-24 17:50     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-24 17:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-24 17:55         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NH_VAA and CMDQ_OP_TLBI_NH_ALL Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 13:44   ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-10  1:19     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 10:53 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_cache_invalidate_user Nicolin Chen
2023-03-09 14:49   ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-09 15:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-10  4:20       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 16:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-11 11:56           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-11 12:53             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 13:03             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-20 15:56               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 16:04                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-20 16:59                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 18:45                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-20 21:22                       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 22:19                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22 20:57                           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-23 12:17                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-17  9:41           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-17 14:24             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 12:59             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-20 16:12               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 18:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-21  8:34                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-21 11:48                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22  6:42                       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-22 12:43                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22 17:11                           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-22 17:28                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22 19:21                               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-22 19:41                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22 20:43                                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-23 12:16                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-23 18:13                                       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-23 18:27                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-24  9:02                         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-24 14:57                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-24 17:35                             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-28  3:03                               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-24  8:47                       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-24 14:44                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-28  2:48                           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-28 12:26                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-31  8:09                               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-17  9:24       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-10  3:51     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-10 17:53       ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-10 18:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-11 12:38         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-13 13:07           ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-16  0:01             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-16 14:58               ` Robin Murphy
2023-03-16 21:09                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20  1:32                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 13:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-20 15:28                       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 16:01                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-20 16:35                           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 18:07                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-20 20:46                               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-20 22:14                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-22  5:14                                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-24  8:55                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-17  9:47     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-17 14:16       ` Nicolin Chen

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