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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	peterz@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	andi.kleen@intel.com, rob@landley.net, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	oleg@redhat.com, venki@google.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Pre-emption control for userspace
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:12:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <531641A8.40306@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1393870033-31076-1-git-send-email-khalid.aziz@oracle.com>

On 03/03/2014 10:07 AM, Khalid Aziz wrote:
> 
> I am working on a feature that has been requested by database folks that
> helps with performance. Some of the oft executed database code uses
> mutexes to lock other threads out of a critical section. They often see
> a situation where a thread grabs the mutex, runs out of its timeslice
> and gets switched out which then causes another thread to run which
> tries to grab the same mutex, spins for a while and finally gives up.
> This can happen with multiple threads until original lock owner gets the
> CPU again and can complete executing its critical section. This queueing
> and subsequent CPU cycle wastage can be avoided if the locking thread
> could request to be granted an additional timeslice if its current
> timeslice runs out before it gives up the lock. Other operating systems
> have implemented this functionality and is used by databases as well as
> JVM. This functionality has been shown to improve performance by 3%-5%.
> 
> I have implemented similar functionality for Linux. This patch adds a
> file /proc/<tgid>/task/<tid>/sched_preempt_delay for each thread.
> Writing 1 to this file causes CFS scheduler to grant additional time
> slice if the currently running process comes up for pre-emption. Writing
> to this file needs to be very quick operation, so I have implemented
> code to allow mmap'ing /proc/<tgid>/task/<tid>/sched_preempt_delay. This
> allows a userspace task to write this flag very quickly. Usage model is
> a thread mmaps this file during initialization. It then writes a 1 to
> the mmap'd file after it grabs the lock in its critical section where it
> wants immunity from pre-emption. It then writes 0 again to this file
> after it releases the lock and calls sched_yield() to give up the
> processor. I have also added a new field in scheduler statistics -
> nr_preempt_delayed, that counts the number of times a thread has been
> granted amnesty. Further details on using this functionality are in 
> Documentation/scheduler/sched-preempt-delay.txt in the patch. This
> patch is based upon the work Venkatesh Pallipadi had done couple of
> years ago.
> 

Shades of the Android wakelocks, no?

This seems to effectively give userspace an option to turn preemptive
multitasking into cooperative multitasking, which of course is
unacceptable for a privileged process (the same reason why unprivileged
processes aren't allowed to run at above-normal priority, including RT
priority.)

I have several issues with this interface:

1. First, a process needs to know if it *should* have been preempted
before it calls sched_yield().  So there needs to be a second flag set
by the scheduler when granting amnesty.

2. A process which fails to call sched_yield() after being granted
amnesty must be penalized.

3. I'm not keen on occupying a full page for this.  I'm wondering if
doing a pointer into user space, futex-style, might make more sense.
The downside, of course, is what happens if the page being pointed to is
swapped out.

Keep in mind this HAS to be per thread.

	-hpa



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-04 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-03 18:07 [RFC] [PATCH] Pre-emption control for userspace Khalid Aziz
2014-03-03 21:51 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-03 23:29   ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-04 13:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-04 17:44   ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-04 18:38     ` Al Viro
2014-03-04 19:01       ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-04 19:03     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-04 20:14       ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-05 14:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-05 16:12           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-05 17:10             ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-04 21:12 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-03-04 21:39   ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-04 22:23     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-04 22:44       ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-05  0:39         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-05  0:51           ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-05 11:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 17:29               ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-05 19:58               ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-06  9:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-06 16:08                   ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-06 11:14                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-06 16:32                   ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-05 14:54             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-05 15:56               ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-05 16:36                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-05 17:22                   ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-05 23:13                     ` David Lang
2014-03-05 23:48                       ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-05 23:56                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-06  0:02                           ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-06  0:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-05 23:59                         ` David Lang
2014-03-06  0:17                           ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-06  0:36                             ` David Lang
2014-03-06  1:22                               ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-06 14:23                                 ` David Lang
2014-03-06 12:13             ` Kevin Easton
2014-03-06 13:59               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-06 22:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-06 14:25               ` David Lang
2014-03-06 16:12                 ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-06 13:24   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2014-03-06 13:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-06 13:45       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2014-03-06 14:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-06 14:33           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-06 14:34             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-06 14:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-03-25 17:17 ` [PATCH v2] " Khalid Aziz
2014-03-25 17:44   ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-25 17:56     ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-25 18:14       ` Andrew Morton
2014-03-25 17:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-25 17:59     ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-25 18:20   ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-25 18:47     ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-25 19:47       ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-25 18:59   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-03-25 19:15     ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-25 20:31       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-03-25 21:37         ` Khalid Aziz
2014-03-26  6:03     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-03-25 23:01 ` [RFC] [PATCH] " Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-25 23:29   ` Khalid Aziz

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