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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, rusty@rustcorp.com.au
Cc: mmarek@suse.cz, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, keyrings@linux-nfs.org,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, mcgrof@suse.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, seth.forshee@canonical.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, dwmw2@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] MODSIGN: Use PKCS#7 for module signatures [ver #4]
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:36:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555BD715.40202@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150515123513.16723.96340.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

I'm not sure I want to get involved here, but...

On 05/15/2015 05:35 AM, David Howells wrote:
>
> Hi Rusty,
>
> Here's a set of patches that does the following:
>
>   (1) Extracts both parts of an X.509 AuthorityKeyIdentifier (AKID) extension.
>       We already extract the bit that can match the subjectKeyIdentifier (SKID)
>       of the parent X.509 cert, but we currently ignore the bits that can match
>       the issuer and serialNumber.
>
>       Looks up an X.509 cert by issuer and serialNumber if those are provided in
>       the AKID.  If the keyIdentifier is also provided, checks that the
>       subjectKeyIdentifier of the cert found matches that also.
>
>       If no issuer and serialNumber are provided in the AKID, looks up an X.509
>       cert by SKID using the AKID keyIdentifier.
>
>       This allows module signing to be done with certificates that don't have an
>       SKID by which they can be looked up.

I think this is way more complicated than it has to be.  Can't we look 
up certificates by their subjectPublicKeyInfo?  Every public key has a 
subjectPublicKeyInfo, and even key types that aren't X.509 at all have 
something equivalent to that.

>
>   (2) Makes use of the PKCS#7 facility to provide module signatures.
>
>       sign-file is replaced with a program that generates a PKCS#7 message that
>       has no X.509 certs embedded and that has detached data (the module
>       content) and adds it onto the message with magic string and descriptor.

Why is PKCS#7 better than whatever we're using now?

>
>   (3) The PKCS#7 message (and matching X.509 cert) supply all the information
>       that is needed to select the X.509 cert to be used to verify the signature
>       by standard means (including selection of digest algorithm and public key
>       algorithm).  No kernel-specific magic values are required.

I would take kernel-specific over PKCS#7 any day.  PKCS#7 is severely 
overcomplicated for what we're doing here.

--Andy


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-20  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-15 12:35 [PATCH 0/8] MODSIGN: Use PKCS#7 for module signatures [ver #4] David Howells
2015-05-15 12:35 ` [PATCH 1/8] X.509: Extract both parts of the AuthorityKeyIdentifier " David Howells
2015-05-15 12:35 ` [PATCH 2/8] X.509: Support X.509 lookup by Issuer+Serial form " David Howells
2015-05-15 12:35 ` [PATCH 3/8] PKCS#7: Allow detached data to be supplied for signature checking purposes " David Howells
2015-05-15 12:35 ` [PATCH 4/8] MODSIGN: Provide a utility to append a PKCS#7 signature to a module " David Howells
2015-05-20  0:50   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20 13:14   ` David Howells
2015-05-20 16:00     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-15 12:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] MODSIGN: Use PKCS#7 messages as module signatures " David Howells
2015-05-15 12:36 ` [PATCH 6/8] sign-file: Add option to only create signature file " David Howells
2015-05-15 12:36 ` [PATCH 7/8] system_keyring.c doesn't need to #include module-internal.h " David Howells
2015-05-15 12:36 ` [PATCH 8/8] MODSIGN: Extract the blob PKCS#7 signature verifier from module signing " David Howells
2015-05-15 13:46 ` [PATCH 0/8] MODSIGN: Use PKCS#7 for module signatures " David Woodhouse
2015-05-15 16:52 ` [PATCH 1/4] modsign: Abort modules_install when signing fails David Woodhouse
2015-05-19  1:29   ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19  6:40     ` Woodhouse, David
2015-05-19 11:45       ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 12:57         ` Woodhouse, David
2015-05-19 13:54           ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-15 16:53 ` [PATCH 2/4] modsign: Allow external signing key to be specified David Woodhouse
2015-05-15 16:53 ` [PATCH 3/4] modsign: Allow password to be specified for signing key David Woodhouse
2015-05-19  1:37   ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-15 16:54 ` [PATCH 4/4] modsign: Allow signing key to be PKCS#11 David Woodhouse
2015-05-15 19:07 ` sign-file and detached PKCS#7 firmware signatures David Howells
2015-05-18 23:13   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19  9:25   ` David Howells
2015-05-19 16:19     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 16:48     ` David Howells
2015-05-19 18:21       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 18:35       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 18:47       ` David Howells
2015-05-19 20:12         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 20:29         ` David Howells
2015-05-15 22:51 ` [PATCH 0/8] MODSIGN: Use PKCS#7 for module signatures [ver #4] Rusty Russell
2015-05-18 12:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] modsign: Allow signing key to be PKCS#11 David Howells
2015-05-19 14:45 ` [PATCH 9/8] modsign: Abort modules_install when signing fails David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 14:45 ` [PATCH 10/8] modsign: Allow password to be specified for signing key David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 15:50   ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 16:15     ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 16:34       ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 18:39   ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 18:48   ` David Howells
2015-05-19 19:14     ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 20:04       ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 14:46 ` [PATCH 11/8] modsign: Allow signing key to be PKCS#11 David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 14:46 ` [PATCH 12/8] modsign: Allow external signing key to be specified David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 14:47 ` [PATCH 13/8] modsign: Extract signing cert from CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY if needed David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 15:36 ` [PATCH 10/8] modsign: Allow password to be specified for signing key David Howells
2015-05-20  0:36 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2015-05-20 13:36 ` [PATCH 0/8] MODSIGN: Use PKCS#7 for module signatures [ver #4] David Howells
2015-05-20 15:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20 16:21     ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-20 16:41       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20 16:55         ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 21:38       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 21:44         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 21:59           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 22:06             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 22:16               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 22:24                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 22:31                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 22:47                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 23:01                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 23:09                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22  7:56                         ` David Howells
2015-05-22 12:42                           ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-22  7:49         ` David Howells
2015-05-22  7:48       ` David Howells
2015-05-22 12:28         ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-24 10:52           ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 13:59   ` David Howells

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