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From: Bob Liu <bob.liu@oracle.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xen.org, david.vrabel@citrix.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
	felipe.franciosi@citrix.com, axboe@fb.com, hch@infradead.org,
	avanzini.arianna@gmail.com, rafal.mielniczuk@citrix.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, jonathan.davies@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/9] xen/blkback: separate ring information out of struct xen_blkif
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:03:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5624C004.2040901@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5624B997.4020907@citrix.com>


On 10/19/2015 05:36 PM, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> El 10/10/15 a les 6.08, Bob Liu ha escrit:
>> On 10/05/2015 10:55 PM, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>> The same for the pool of persistent grants, it should be per-device and
>>> not per-ring.
>>>
>>> And I think this issue is far worse than the others, because a frontend
>>> might use a persistent grant on different queues, forcing the backend
>>> map the grant several times for each queue, this is not acceptable IMO.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> I realize it would make things complicate if making persistent grant per-device instead of per-queue.
>> Extra locks are required to protect the per-device pool on both blkfront and blkback.
> 
> Yes, I realize this, but without having at least a prototype it's hard
> to tell if contention is going to be a problem or not. We already use a
> red-black tree to store persistent grants, which should be quite fast
> when performing searches.
> 
> IMHO, we are doing things backwards, we should have investigated first
> if using per-device was a problem, and if it indeed was a problem then
> move to per-queue. Using per-device just required adding locks around
> the functions to get/put grants and friends, leaving the data structures
> untouched (per-device).
> 
>> AFAIR, there was a discussion before about dropping persistent grant map at all.
>> The only reason we left this feature was backward compatibility.
>> So that I think we should not complicate xen-block code any more because of a going to be dropped feature.
>>
>> How about disable feature-persistent if multi-queue was used?
> 
> This is not what we have done in the past, also there's no way for
> blkback to tell the frontend that persistent grants and multiqueue
> cannot be used at the same time. Blkback puts all supported features on
> xenstore before knowing anything about the frontend.
> 
> Also, if you want to do it per-queue instead of per-device the limits
> need to be properly adjusted, not just the persistent grants one, but
> also the queue of cached free pages. This also implies that each queue
> it's going to have it's own LRU and purge task.
> 

Okay, then I'll update with a per-device version.

For blkfront there would be two locks used, one for per-device and the other for per-ring.

For blkback, an new lock would be added to protect the red-black tree e.g. in add_persistent_gnt().

-- 
Regards,
-Bob

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-19 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-05 12:39 [PATCH v3 0/9] xen-block: support multi hardware-queues/rings Bob Liu
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] xen-blkfront: convert to blk-mq APIs Bob Liu
2015-09-23 20:31   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-23 21:12     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] xen-block: add document for mutli hardware queues/rings Bob Liu
2015-09-23 20:32   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-02 16:04   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-02 16:12     ` [Xen-devel] " Wei Liu
2015-10-02 16:22       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-02 23:55         ` Bob Liu
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] xen/blkfront: separate per ring information out of device info Bob Liu
2015-10-02 17:02   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-03  0:34     ` Bob Liu
2015-10-05 15:17       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-10  8:30     ` Bob Liu
2015-10-19  9:42       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] xen/blkfront: pseudo support for multi hardware queues/rings Bob Liu
2015-10-05 10:52   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-07 10:28     ` Bob Liu
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] xen/blkfront: convert per device io_lock to per ring ring_lock Bob Liu
2015-10-05 14:13   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-07 10:34     ` Bob Liu
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] xen/blkfront: negotiate the number of hw queues/rings with backend Bob Liu
2015-10-05 14:40   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-07 10:39     ` Bob Liu
2015-10-07 11:46       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-07 12:19         ` Bob Liu
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] xen/blkback: separate ring information out of struct xen_blkif Bob Liu
2015-10-05 14:55   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-07 10:41     ` Bob Liu
2015-10-10  4:08     ` Bob Liu
2015-10-19  9:36       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-19 10:03         ` Bob Liu [this message]
2015-10-05 14:55   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] xen/blkback: pseudo support for multi hardware queues/rings Bob Liu
2015-10-05 15:08   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-07 10:50     ` Bob Liu
2015-10-07 11:49       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-05 12:39 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] xen/blkback: get number of hardware queues/rings from blkfront Bob Liu
2015-10-05 15:15   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-10-07 10:54     ` Bob Liu
2015-10-02  9:57 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] xen-block: support multi hardware-queues/rings Rafal Mielniczuk

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