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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] gpio: sch: Add interrupt support
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:44:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63b179c9-242d-ae90-9c33-49ed256bde28@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdY=m1QJVqvERiAY+7taUgjPXn=9U2Eajx7d7NPo-iNhiA@mail.gmail.com>

On 26.04.19 16:41, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:06 PM Andy Shevchenko
> <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:39:35PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 24.04.19 12:33, Mika Westerberg wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:19:02PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>
>>>>> And even if that were possible, we would be back to the square of existing
>>>>> devices without those definitions. If this were a recent chipset, I would
>>>>> say, "go, fix future firmware versions". But this one is legacy.
>>>>
>>>> Is it fixing some real issue with these legacy platforms? I mean without
>>>> the patch some GPE event is not handled properly? It was not clear to me
>>>> from the commit message.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Without that patch, you are forced to poll for event changes in your
>>> application, timer-driven. There are application that cannot process these
>>> GPIOs because they lack such logic (mraa with node-red-node-intel-gpio is a
>>> public example).
>>
>> Just a side note: MRAA is a hack itself. It abuses almost all interfaces Linux
>> kernel provides.
> 
> I think it's pretty clean for GPIOs these days. My colleague Manivannan
> was part of cleaning it up a while back and since then it is doing
> what userspace should be doing if userspace absolutely cannot
> abstain from using GPIOs directly (i.e. uses the character device).
> https://github.com/intel-iot-devkit/mraa/blob/master/src/gpio/gpio_chardev.c
> 
> I don't know about other resources than GPIOs though.

That's valuable progress!

OTOH, there still seem to be the broken pattern to address pins via hard-coded 
GPIO numbers. This broke our neck, e.g., when trying to replace the hacky BSP 
kernel with upstream. I started to create better infrastructure but never fished 
that.

Thanks,
Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

      reply	other threads:[~2019-04-26 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-18  9:23 [PATCH 0/2] gpio: sch: Interrupt support Jan Kiszka
2019-04-18  9:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] gpio: sch: Remove write-only core_base Jan Kiszka
2019-04-23 11:09   ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-18  9:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] gpio: sch: Add interrupt support Jan Kiszka
2019-04-23 11:10   ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-24  7:58   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  8:12     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  8:18       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  8:25         ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  8:42           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  9:36             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24  9:45               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24  9:48                 ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:01                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 10:19                     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:33                       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 10:39                         ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 10:46                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 12:41                             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 13:13                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-24 14:24                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-24 15:33                                   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-04-26 13:06                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 13:36                             ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 14:42                               ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-26 15:31                                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 16:03                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:20                                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:33                                     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:39                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:46                                         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:52                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-26 17:56                                             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 17:44                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:52                                         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2019-04-26 18:26                                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-04-26 17:37                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2019-04-29 11:09                                   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-05-16 12:20                                     ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-26 14:41                             ` Linus Walleij
2019-04-26 15:44                               ` Jan Kiszka [this message]

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