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From: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com,
	nsaenz@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	lenb@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, kw@linux.com,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] PCI: brcmstb: Add ACPI config space quirk
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:25:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <694bb355-3b5e-9801-3772-ff784b49a603@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211005194301.enb5jddzdgczcolx@pali>

Hi,

On 10/5/21 2:43 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> On Tuesday 05 October 2021 10:57:18 Jeremy Linton wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 10/5/21 10:32 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 02:15:55AM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
>>>> Additionally, some basic bus/device filtering exist to avoid sending
>>>> config transactions to invalid devices on the RP's primary or
>>>> secondary bus. A basic link check is also made to assure that
>>>> something is operational on the secondary side before probing the
>>>> remainder of the config space. If either of these constraints are
>>>> violated and a config operation is lost in the ether because an EP
>>>> doesn't respond an unrecoverable SERROR is raised.
>>>
>>> It's not "lost"; I assume the root port raises an error because it
>>> can't send a transaction over a link that is down.
>>
>> The problem is AFAIK because the root port doesn't do that.
> 
> Interesting! Does it mean that PCIe Root Complex / Host Bridge (which I
> guess contains also logic for Root Port) does not signal transaction
> failure for config requests? Or it is just your opinion? Because I'm
> dealing with similar issues and I'm trying to find a way how to detect
> if some PCIe IP signal transaction error via AXI SLVERR response OR it
> just does not send any response back. So if you know some way how to
> check which one it is, I would like to know it too.

This is my _opinion_ based on what I've heard of some other IP 
integration issues, and what i've seen poking at this one from the 
perspective of a SW guy rather than a HW guy. So, basically worthless. 
But, you should consider that most of these cores/interconnects aren't 
aware of PCIe completion semantics so its the root ports responsibility 
to say, gracefully translate a non-posted write that doesn't have a 
completion for the interconnects its attached to, rather than tripping 
something generic like a SLVERR.

Anyway, for this I would poke around the pile of exception registers, 
with your specific processors manual handy because a lot of them are 
implementation defined.
>>>
>>> Is "SERROR" an ARM64 thing?  My guess is the root port would raise an
>>> Unsupported Request error or similar, and the root complex turns that
>>> into a system-specific SERROR?
> 
> Yes, SError is arm64 specific. It is asynchronous CPU interrupt and
> syndrome code then contains what happened.
> 
>> AFAIK, what is happening here the CPU core has an outstanding R/W request
>> for which it never receives a response from the root port. So basically its
>> an interconnect protocol violation that the CPU is complaining about rather
>> than something PCIe specific.
> 
> Could you describe (ideally in commit message) which SError is
> triggered? Normally if kernel receive SError interrupt it also puts into
> dmesg or oops message also syndrome code which describe what kind of
> error / event occurred. It could help also to other understand what is
> happening there.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-26  7:15 [PATCH v3 0/4] CM4 ACPI PCIe quirk Jeremy Linton
2021-08-26  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] PCI: brcmstb: Break register definitions into separate header Jeremy Linton
2021-08-30  8:37   ` nicolas saenz julienne
2021-08-26  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] PCI: brcmstb: Add ACPI config space quirk Jeremy Linton
2021-08-30  8:36   ` nicolas saenz julienne
2021-08-30 16:23     ` Jeremy Linton
2021-08-30 16:27       ` Florian Fainelli
2021-08-30 17:17         ` nicolas saenz julienne
2021-10-05 15:32   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-05 15:57     ` Jeremy Linton
2021-10-05 19:43       ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-05 22:25         ` Jeremy Linton [this message]
2021-10-06  2:07           ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-22 17:04             ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-22 17:17               ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-22 17:29                 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-22 17:57                   ` Pali Rohár
2021-08-26  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] PCI/ACPI: Add Broadcom bcm2711 MCFG quirk Jeremy Linton
2021-08-30  8:37   ` nicolas saenz julienne
2021-09-13 16:12   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-10-05 15:10   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-05 15:43     ` Jeremy Linton
2021-10-05 22:31       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-05 23:32         ` Jeremy Linton
2021-10-05 20:02   ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-05 22:44     ` Jeremy Linton
2021-08-26  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] MAINTAINERS: Widen brcmstb PCIe file scope Jeremy Linton
2021-08-30  8:38   ` nicolas saenz julienne

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