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From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] x86/alternatives: text_poke() fixes
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 19:10:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6B256AB7-0158-47DF-B2D5-4C835579F3A3@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8D3CE999-6D3A-4984-934A-634BDD8AC25A@vmware.com>

at 12:02 PM, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:

> at 11:56 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 10:32:18AM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> This patch-set addresses some issues that were raised in a recent
>>> correspondence and might affect the security and the correctness of code
>>> patching. (Note that patching performance is not addressed by this
>>> patch-set).
>>> 
>>> The main issue that the patches deal with is the fact that the fixmap
>>> PTEs that are used for patching are available for access from other
>>> cores and might be exploited. They are not even flushed from the TLB in
>>> remote cores, so the risk is even higher. Address this issue by
>>> introducing a temporary mm that is only used during patching.
>>> Unfortunately, due to init ordering, fixmap is still used during
>>> boot-time patching. Future patches can eliminate the need for it.
>> 
>> Remind me; why are we doing it like this instead of fixing fixmap?
>> Because while this fixes the text_poke crud, it does leave fixmap
>> broken.
> 
> Do you have other fixmap mappings in mind that are modified after boot?

Oh.. I misunderstood you. You mean: why not to make the fixmap mappings that
are used for text_poke() as private ones.

Well, the main reason is that it can require synchronizations of the
different page-tables whenever a module is loaded/unloaded. The fixmap
region shares a PGD and PUD with the modules area in x86-64.

In contrast, the proposed solution uses a different PGD, so no
synchronization between page-tables is needed when modules are loaded.
Remember that module memory is allocated even when BPF programs are
installed, which can be rather common scenario.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-05 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-02 17:32 [PATCH v2 0/6] x86/alternatives: text_poke() fixes Nadav Amit
2018-09-02 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] Fix "x86/alternatives: Lockdep-enforce text_mutex in text_poke*()" Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 19:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 19:42     ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 19:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 19:58         ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 20:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 20:57             ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 21:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-02 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] x86/mm: temporary mm struct Nadav Amit
2018-09-02 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] fork: provide a function for copying init_mm Nadav Amit
2018-09-02 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] x86/alternatives: initializing temporary mm for patching Nadav Amit
2018-09-06  9:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-07 20:52     ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-02 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/alternatives: use temporary mm for text poking Nadav Amit
2018-09-02 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] x86/alternatives: remove text_poke() return value Nadav Amit
2018-09-05 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] x86/alternatives: text_poke() fixes Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-05 19:02   ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-05 19:10     ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2018-09-06  8:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06  8:42         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06  9:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 10:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 17:01           ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 17:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 17:58               ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 18:09                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-06 18:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 18:38                     ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 19:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 17:23             ` Peter Zijlstra

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