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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] base/drivers/arch_topology: Replace mutex with READ_ONCE / WRITE_ONCE
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:39:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <700ef337-fd77-b1c1-a505-1e6ca5580e62@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181126082702.GA18469@localhost.localdomain>

Hi Juri,

On 26/11/2018 09:27, Juri Lelli wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 23/11/18 17:54, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>> On 23/11/2018 17:20, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 05:04:18PM +0100, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2018 14:58, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 05:23:18PM +0100, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>> The mutex protects a per_cpu variable access. The potential race can
>>>>>> happen only when the cpufreq governor module is loaded and at the same
>>>>>> time the cpu capacity is changed in the sysfs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if we really need that sysfs entry to be writable. For some
>>>>> reason, I had assumed it's read only, obviously it's not. I prefer to
>>>>> make it RO if there's no strong reason other than debug purposes.
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting to remove the READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE patch and set the
>>>> sysfs file read-only ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just to be sure, if we retain RW capability we still need to fix the
>>> race you are pointing out.
>>>
>>> However I just don't see the need for RW cpu_capacity sysfs and hence
>>> asking the reason here. IIRC I had pointed this out long back(not sure
>>> internally or externally) but seemed to have missed the version that got
>>> merged. So I am just asking if we really need write capability given that
>>> it has known issues.
>>>
>>> If user-space starts writing the value to influence the scheduler, then
>>> it makes it difficult for kernel to change the way it uses the
>>> cpu_capacity in future.
>>>
>>> Sorry if there's valid usecase and I am just making noise here.
>>
>> It's ok [added Juri Lelli]
>>
>> I've been through the history:
>>
>> commit be8f185d8af4dbd450023a42a48c6faa8cbcdfe6
>> Author: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
>> Date:   Thu Nov 3 05:40:18 2016 +0000
>>
>>     arm64: add sysfs cpu_capacity attribute
>>
>>     Add a sysfs cpu_capacity attribute with which it is possible to read and
>>     write (thus over-writing default values) CPUs capacity. This might be
>>     useful in situations where values needs changing after boot.
>>
>>     The new attribute shows up as:
>>
>>      /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpu_capacity
>>
>>     Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
>>     Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
>>     Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
>>     Signed-off-by: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
>>     Signed-off-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>>
>> Juri do you have a use case where we want to override the capacity?
>>
>> Shall we switch the sysfs attribute to read-only?
> 
> So, I spent a bit of time researching patchset history and IIRC the
> point of having a RW cpu_capacity was to help in situations where one
> wants to change values after boot, because she/he now has "better"
> numbers (remember we advocate to use Dhrystone to populate DTs, but that
> is highly debatable). I also seem to remember that there might also be
> cases where DT values cannot be changed at all for a (new?) platform
> that happens to be using DTs shipped with an old revision; something
> along these lines was mentioned (by Mark?) during the review process,
> but exact details escape my mind ATM, apologies.

Ok, so I guess it makes sense to keep it RW then.

Thanks for the feedback.

  -- Daniel



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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-26  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-29 16:23 [PATCH 1/4] base/drivers/arch_topology: Remove useless check Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-29 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/4] base/drivers/arch_topology: Replace mutex with READ_ONCE / WRITE_ONCE Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-30  5:57   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-11-23 13:58   ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-23 16:04     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-11-23 16:20       ` Sudeep Holla
2018-11-23 16:54         ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-11-26  8:27           ` Juri Lelli
2018-11-26  8:39             ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2018-11-26 11:33             ` Mark Brown
2018-10-29 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/4] base/drivers/topology: Move instructions in the error path Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-30  6:12   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-10-30  8:32     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-29 16:23 ` [PATCH 4/4] base/drivers/topology: Default dmpis-mhz if they are not set in DT Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-30  7:13   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-10-30  8:39     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-30  8:45       ` Viresh Kumar
2018-10-30  8:58   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-11-21 22:12     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-11-22  4:29       ` Viresh Kumar
2018-11-22 10:29         ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-11-22 10:31           ` Viresh Kumar
2018-11-22 10:32             ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-11-22 11:11             ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-30  5:50 ` [PATCH 1/4] base/drivers/arch_topology: Remove useless check Viresh Kumar
2018-10-30  7:55   ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-30  8:33     ` Viresh Kumar
2018-10-30 13:35       ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-31  4:27         ` Viresh Kumar

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