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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] x86/ioremap: Support hypervisor specified range to map as encrypted
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 07:09:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76566fc4-d6be-8ebf-7e9d-d0b7918cb880@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR21MB16880F67072368255CBD815AD7D89@BYAPR21MB1688.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>

On 2/7/23 16:18, Michael Kelley (LINUX) wrote:
> In v2 of this patch series, you had concerns about CC_ATTR_PARAVISOR being too
> generic. [1]   After some back-and-forth discussion in this thread, Boris is back to
> preferring it.   Can you live with CC_ATTR_PARAVISOR?  Just trying to reach
> consensus ... 

I still think it's too generic.  Even the comment was trying to be too
generic:

> +	/**
> +	 * @CC_ATTR_HAS_PARAVISOR: Guest VM is running with a paravisor
> +	 *
> +	 * The platform/OS is running as a guest/virtual machine with
> +	 * a paravisor in VMPL0. Having a paravisor affects things
> +	 * like whether the I/O APIC is emulated and operates in the
> +	 * encrypted or decrypted portion of the guest physical address
> +	 * space.
> +	 *
> +	 * Examples include Hyper-V SEV-SNP guests using vTOM.
> +	 */
> +	CC_ATTR_HAS_PARAVISOR,

This doesn't help me figure out when I should use CC_ATTR_HAS_PARAVISOR
really at all.  It "operates in the encrypted or decrypted portion..."
Which one is it?  Should I be adding or removing encryption on the
mappings for paravisors?

That's opposed to:

> +	/**
> +	 * @CC_ATTR_ACCESS_IOAPIC_ENCRYPTED: Guest VM IO-APIC is encrypted
> +	 *
> +	 * The platform/OS is running as a guest/virtual machine with
> +	 * an IO-APIC that is emulated by a paravisor running in the
> +	 * guest VM context. As such, the IO-APIC is accessed in the
> +	 * encrypted portion of the guest physical address space.
> +	 *
> +	 * Examples include Hyper-V SEV-SNP guests using vTOM.
> +	 */
> +	CC_ATTR_ACCESS_IOAPIC_ENCRYPTED,

Which makes this code almost stupidly obvious:

> -	flags = pgprot_decrypted(flags);
> +	if (!cc_platform_has(CC_ATTR_ACCESS_IOAPIC_ENCRYPTED))
> +		flags = pgprot_decrypted(flags);

"Oh, if it's access is not encrypted, then get the decrypted version of
the flags."

Compare that to:

	if (!cc_platform_has(CC_ATTR_PARAVISOR))
		flags = pgprot_decrypted(flags);

Which is a big fat WTF.  Because a paravisor "operates in the encrypted
or decrypted portion..."  So is this if() condition correct or inverted?
It's utterly impossible to tell because of how generic the option is.

The only way to make sense of the generic thing is to do:

	/* Paravisors have a decrypted IO-APIC mapping: */
	if (!cc_platform_has(CC_ATTR_PARAVISOR))
		flags = pgprot_decrypted(flags);

at every site to state the assumption and make the connection between
paravisors and the behavior.  If you want to go do _that_, then fine by
me.  But, at that point, the naming is pretty worthless because you
could also have said "goldfish" instead of "paravisor" and it makes an
equal amount of sense:

	/* Goldfish have a decrypted IO-APIC mapping: */
	if (!cc_platform_has(CC_ATTR_GOLDFISH))
		flags = pgprot_decrypted(flags);

I get it, naming is hard.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-08 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-12 21:42 [PATCH v5 00/14] Add PCI pass-thru support to Hyper-V Confidential VMs Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] x86/ioapic: Gate decrypted mapping on cc_platform_has() attribute Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] x86/hyperv: Reorder code to facilitate future work Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] Drivers: hv: Explicitly request decrypted in vmap_pfn() calls Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] x86/mm: Handle decryption/re-encryption of bss_decrypted consistently Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] init: Call mem_encrypt_init() after Hyper-V hypercall init is done Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] x86/ioremap: Support hypervisor specified range to map as encrypted Michael Kelley
2023-01-20 20:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-01-21  4:10     ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-01-25 14:55       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-02  5:49         ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-07 12:41           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-07 19:01             ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-07 19:33               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-07 19:48                 ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-07 19:54                   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-07 19:57                     ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-08  0:18                     ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-08 15:09                       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-02-09 17:29                         ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-08 17:23             ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-09 17:47               ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-10 18:41                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-10 18:58                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-10 19:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-10 19:15                     ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-10 19:36                       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-10 19:58                         ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-10 20:50                           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-10 20:57                             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-10 21:27                               ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-10 23:47                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-14  7:45                                   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-16 13:32                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-16 16:16                                     ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-16 17:06                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-17  6:16                                         ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-17 14:55                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-22 22:13                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-22 22:33                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-22 22:54                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-22 23:34                                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-23  1:21                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 10:45                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-23 20:01                                                         ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-23 20:27                                                           ` Dave Hansen
2023-03-06 21:51                                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 11:12                                                               ` David Woodhouse
2023-03-09 11:59                                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 13:00                                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2023-03-09 14:19                                                                   ` Tom Lendacky
2023-03-09 14:36                                                                     ` Jörg Rödel
2023-03-09 14:45                                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-09 15:45                                                                         ` David Woodhouse
2023-03-09 16:34                                                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-10 10:05                                                                             ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-23 20:26                                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-23 20:41                                     ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-23 20:51                                       ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-23 21:07                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 21:15                                           ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2023-02-23 21:24                                             ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] x86/hyperv: Change vTOM handling to use standard coco mechanisms Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] swiotlb: Remove bounce buffer remapping for Hyper-V Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Remove second mapping of VMBus monitor pages Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Remove second way of mapping ring buffers Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] hv_netvsc: Remove second mapping of send and recv buffers Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] Drivers: hv: Don't remap addresses that are above shared_gpa_boundary Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] PCI: hv: Add hypercalls to read/write MMIO space Michael Kelley
2023-01-12 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] PCI: hv: Enable PCI pass-thru devices in Confidential VMs Michael Kelley

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