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From: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
To: "Davide Libenzi" <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: "Jamie Lokier" <jamie@shareable.org>,
	"Nick Piggin" <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	"bill davidsen" <davidsen@tmr.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:38:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7F740D512C7C1046AB53446D372001736187C8@scsmsx402.sc.intel.com> (raw)

> You forgot the one where no HT knowledge can be used for
optimizations.
> 
> - Asserting the CPU's #LOCK pin to take control of the system bus.
That in
>   MP system translate into the signaling CPU taking full control of
the
>   system bus until the pin is deasserted.
>

It is not the case with UP (single socket) using HT, where some
optimization for locks could be available. But you still need locks for
the logical processors.

	Jun

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-kernel-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:25 PM
> To: Linus Torvalds
> Cc: Jamie Lokier; Nick Piggin; bill davidsen; Linux Kernel Mailing
List
> Subject: Re: [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler
> 
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > I bet it is. In a big way.
> >
> > The lock does two independent things:
> >  - it tells the core that it can't just crack up the load and store.
> >  - it also tells other memory ops that they can't re-order around
it.
> 
> You forgot the one where no HT knowledge can be used for
optimizations.
> 
> - Asserting the CPU's #LOCK pin to take control of the system bus.
That in
>   MP system translate into the signaling CPU taking full control of
the
>   system bus until the pin is deasserted.
> 
> 
> 
> - Davide
> 
> 
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             reply	other threads:[~2003-12-17  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-17  0:38 Nakajima, Jun [this message]
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2003-12-16 19:03 [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Nakajima, Jun
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2003-12-16 17:37 ` Andrew Theurer
2003-12-17  2:41   ` Nick Piggin
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     [not found] ` <3FDAB517.4000309@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
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     [not found]     ` <3FDBC876.3020603@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20031214043245.GC21241@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
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     [not found]           ` <1071398761.5233.1.camel@laptop.fenrus.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-12-14 16:26             ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-14 16:54               ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-08  4:25 [PATCH][RFC] make cpu_sibling_map a cpumask_t Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 15:59 ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-08 23:08   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-09  0:14     ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-11  4:25       ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  7:24         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  8:57           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:52             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:09               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:23                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:32                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:30                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:38                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:51                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:56                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:37                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:40                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-12  0:58             ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-11 10:01           ` Rhino
2003-12-11  8:14             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:49               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:16                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:40             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 17:05               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:17                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:28         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-12-11 16:41           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  2:24         ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-12  7:00           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  7:23             ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-13  6:43               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  1:35                 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-14  2:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  4:32                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-14  9:40                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14 10:46                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-16 17:46                         ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-16 18:22                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:24                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-17  0:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:54                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-16 17:34                     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15  5:53                 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-15 23:08                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  4:57                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  5:13                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  2:43                       ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-21  2:56                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-03 18:57                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15 20:21                 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-15 23:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-16  0:11                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-12  8:59             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12 15:14               ` Martin J. Bligh

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