From: Ruan Shiyang <ruansy.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
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"dan.j.williams@intel.com" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>, "rgoldwyn@suse.de" <rgoldwyn@suse.de>,
"Qi, Fuli" <qi.fuli@fujitsu.com>,
"Gotou, Yasunori" <y-goto@fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: 回复: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] dax: Add a dax-rmap tree to support reflink
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 10:30:57 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <841a9dbb-daa7-3827-6bf9-664187e45a94@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200605013023.GZ2040@dread.disaster.area>
On 2020/6/5 上午9:30, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 07:51:07AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 03:37:42PM +0800, Ruan Shiyang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2020/4/28 下午2:43, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 06:09:47AM +0000, Ruan, Shiyang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 在 2020/4/27 20:28:36, "Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org> 写道:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 04:47:42PM +0800, Shiyang Ruan wrote:
>>>>>>> This patchset is a try to resolve the shared 'page cache' problem for
>>>>>>> fsdax.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to track multiple mappings and indexes on one page, I
>>>>>>> introduced a dax-rmap rb-tree to manage the relationship. A dax entry
>>>>>>> will be associated more than once if is shared. At the second time we
>>>>>>> associate this entry, we create this rb-tree and store its root in
>>>>>>> page->private(not used in fsdax). Insert (->mapping, ->index) when
>>>>>>> dax_associate_entry() and delete it when dax_disassociate_entry().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we really want to track all of this on a per-page basis? I would
>>>>>> have thought a per-extent basis was more useful. Essentially, create
>>>>>> a new address_space for each shared extent. Per page just seems like
>>>>>> a huge overhead.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Per-extent tracking is a nice idea for me. I haven't thought of it
>>>>> yet...
>>>>>
>>>>> But the extent info is maintained by filesystem. I think we need a way
>>>>> to obtain this info from FS when associating a page. May be a bit
>>>>> complicated. Let me think about it...
>>>>
>>>> That's why I want the -user of this association- to do a filesystem
>>>> callout instead of keeping it's own naive tracking infrastructure.
>>>> The filesystem can do an efficient, on-demand reverse mapping lookup
>>>> from it's own extent tracking infrastructure, and there's zero
>>>> runtime overhead when there are no errors present.
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> I ran into some difficulties when trying to implement the per-extent rmap
>>> tracking. So, I re-read your comments and found that I was misunderstanding
>>> what you described here.
>>>
>>> I think what you mean is: we don't need the in-memory dax-rmap tracking now.
>>> Just ask the FS for the owner's information that associate with one page
>>> when memory-failure. So, the per-page (even per-extent) dax-rmap is
>>> needless in this case. Is this right?
>>
>> Right. XFS already has its own rmap tree.
>
> *nod*
>
>>> Based on this, we only need to store the extent information of a fsdax page
>>> in its ->mapping (by searching from FS). Then obtain the owners of this
>>> page (also by searching from FS) when memory-failure or other rmap case
>>> occurs.
>>
>> I don't even think you need that much. All you need is the "physical"
>> offset of that page within the pmem device (e.g. 'this is the 307th 4k
>> page == offset 1257472 since the start of /dev/pmem0') and xfs can look
>> up the owner of that range of physical storage and deal with it as
>> needed.
>
> Right. If we have the dax device associated with the page that had
> the failure, then we can determine the offset of the page into the
> block device address space and that's all we need to find the owner
> of the page in the filesystem.
>
> Note that there may actually be no owner - the page that had the
> fault might land in free space, in which case we can simply zero
> the page and clear the error.
OK. Thanks for pointing out.
>
>>> So, a fsdax page is no longer associated with a specific file, but with a
>>> FS(or the pmem device). I think it's easier to understand and implement.
>
> Effectively, yes. But we shouldn't need to actually associate the
> page with anything at the filesystem level because it is already
> associated with a DAX device at a lower level via a dev_pagemap.
> The hardware page fault already runs thought this code
> memory_failure_dev_pagemap() before it gets to the DAX code, so
> really all we need to is have that function pass us the page, offset
> into the device and, say, the struct dax_device associated with that
> page so we can get to the filesystem superblock we can then use for
> rmap lookups on...
>
OK. I was just thinking about how can I execute the FS rmap search from
the memory-failure. Thanks again for pointing out. :)
--
Thanks,
Ruan Shiyang.
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-05 2:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-27 8:47 [RFC PATCH 0/8] dax: Add a dax-rmap tree to support reflink Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] fs/dax: Introduce dax-rmap btree for reflink Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] mm: add dax-rmap for memory-failure and rmap Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] fs/dax: Introduce dax_copy_edges() for COW Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] fs/dax: copy data before write Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] fs/dax: replace mmap entry in case of CoW Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] fs/dax: dedup file range to use a compare function Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] fs/xfs: handle CoW for fsdax write() path Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 8:47 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] fs/xfs: support dedupe for fsdax Shiyang Ruan
2020-04-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] dax: Add a dax-rmap tree to support reflink Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-28 6:09 ` 回复: " Ruan, Shiyang
2020-04-28 6:43 ` Dave Chinner
2020-04-28 9:32 ` Ruan Shiyang
2020-04-28 11:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-28 11:24 ` Dave Chinner
2020-04-28 15:37 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-04-28 22:02 ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-04 7:37 ` Ruan Shiyang
2020-06-04 14:51 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-05 1:30 ` Dave Chinner
2020-06-05 2:30 ` Ruan Shiyang [this message]
2020-06-05 2:11 ` Ruan Shiyang
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