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* [PATCH v2 1/2] memcg: switch lruvec stats to rstat
@ 2021-06-15 17:44 Shakeel Butt
  2021-06-15 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats Shakeel Butt
  2021-07-05  5:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] memcg: switch lruvec stats to rstat Huang, Ying
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Shakeel Butt @ 2021-06-15 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tejun Heo, Johannes Weiner, Muchun Song
  Cc: Michal Hocko, Roman Gushchin, Michal Koutný,
	Huang Ying, Andrew Morton, cgroups, linux-mm, linux-kernel,
	Shakeel Butt

The commit 2d146aa3aa84 ("mm: memcontrol: switch to rstat") but skipped
the conversion of the lruvec stats as such stats are read in the
performance critical code paths and flushing stats may have impacted the
performances of the applications. This patch converts the lruvec stats
to rstat and later patch adds the periodic flushing of the stats and
thus remove the need to synchronously flushing the stats in the
performance critical code paths.

The rstat conversion comes with the price i.e. memory cost. Effectively
this patch reverts the savings done by the commit f3344adf38bd ("mm:
memcontrol: optimize per-lruvec stats counter memory usage"). However
this cost is justified due to negative impact of the inaccurate lruvec
stats on many heuristics. One such case is reported in [1].

The memory reclaim code is filled with plethora of heuristics and many
of those heuristics reads the lruvec stats. So, inaccurate stats can
make such heuristics ineffective. [1] reports the impact of inaccurate
lruvec stats on the "cache trim mode" heuristic. Inaccurate lruvec stats
can impact the deactivation and aging anon heuristics as well.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20210311004449.1170308-1-ying.huang@intel.com/

Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
---
Changes since v1:
- no changes

 include/linux/memcontrol.h |  42 +++++++------
 mm/memcontrol.c            | 118 +++++++++++++------------------------
 2 files changed, 60 insertions(+), 100 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/memcontrol.h b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
index bfe5c486f4ad..0bfa0409af22 100644
--- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
+++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
@@ -105,14 +105,6 @@ struct mem_cgroup_reclaim_iter {
 	unsigned int generation;
 };
 
-struct lruvec_stat {
-	long count[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
-};
-
-struct batched_lruvec_stat {
-	s32 count[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
-};
-
 /*
  * Bitmap and deferred work of shrinker::id corresponding to memcg-aware
  * shrinkers, which have elements charged to this memcg.
@@ -123,24 +115,30 @@ struct shrinker_info {
 	unsigned long *map;
 };
 
+struct lruvec_stats_percpu {
+	/* Local (CPU and cgroup) state */
+	long state[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
+
+	/* Delta calculation for lockless upward propagation */
+	long state_prev[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
+};
+
+struct lruvec_stats {
+	/* Aggregated (CPU and subtree) state */
+	long state[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
+
+	/* Pending child counts during tree propagation */
+	long state_pending[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
+};
+
 /*
  * per-node information in memory controller.
  */
 struct mem_cgroup_per_node {
 	struct lruvec		lruvec;
 
-	/*
-	 * Legacy local VM stats. This should be struct lruvec_stat and
-	 * cannot be optimized to struct batched_lruvec_stat. Because
-	 * the threshold of the lruvec_stat_cpu can be as big as
-	 * MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH * PAGE_SIZE. It can fit into s32. But this
-	 * filed has no upper limit.
-	 */
-	struct lruvec_stat __percpu *lruvec_stat_local;
-
-	/* Subtree VM stats (batched updates) */
-	struct batched_lruvec_stat __percpu *lruvec_stat_cpu;
-	atomic_long_t		lruvec_stat[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
+	struct lruvec_stats_percpu __percpu	*lruvec_stats_percpu;
+	struct lruvec_stats			lruvec_stats;
 
 	unsigned long		lru_zone_size[MAX_NR_ZONES][NR_LRU_LISTS];
 
@@ -965,7 +963,7 @@ static inline unsigned long lruvec_page_state(struct lruvec *lruvec,
 		return node_page_state(lruvec_pgdat(lruvec), idx);
 
 	pn = container_of(lruvec, struct mem_cgroup_per_node, lruvec);
-	x = atomic_long_read(&pn->lruvec_stat[idx]);
+	x = READ_ONCE(pn->lruvec_stats.state[idx]);
 #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
 	if (x < 0)
 		x = 0;
@@ -985,7 +983,7 @@ static inline unsigned long lruvec_page_state_local(struct lruvec *lruvec,
 
 	pn = container_of(lruvec, struct mem_cgroup_per_node, lruvec);
 	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu)
-		x += per_cpu(pn->lruvec_stat_local->count[idx], cpu);
+		x += per_cpu(pn->lruvec_stats_percpu->state[idx], cpu);
 #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
 	if (x < 0)
 		x = 0;
diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
index dce5154fbb8f..6e24fd8c5301 100644
--- a/mm/memcontrol.c
+++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
@@ -671,46 +671,20 @@ static unsigned long memcg_page_state_local(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, int idx)
 	return x;
 }
 
-static struct mem_cgroup_per_node *
-parent_nodeinfo(struct mem_cgroup_per_node *pn, int nid)
-{
-	struct mem_cgroup *parent;
-
-	parent = parent_mem_cgroup(pn->memcg);
-	if (!parent)
-		return NULL;
-	return parent->nodeinfo[nid];
-}
-
 void __mod_memcg_lruvec_state(struct lruvec *lruvec, enum node_stat_item idx,
 			      int val)
 {
 	struct mem_cgroup_per_node *pn;
 	struct mem_cgroup *memcg;
-	long x, threshold = MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH;
 
 	pn = container_of(lruvec, struct mem_cgroup_per_node, lruvec);
 	memcg = pn->memcg;
 
-	/* Update memcg */
-	__mod_memcg_state(memcg, idx, val);
-
 	/* Update lruvec */
-	__this_cpu_add(pn->lruvec_stat_local->count[idx], val);
+	__this_cpu_add(pn->lruvec_stats_percpu->state[idx], val);
 
-	if (vmstat_item_in_bytes(idx))
-		threshold <<= PAGE_SHIFT;
-
-	x = val + __this_cpu_read(pn->lruvec_stat_cpu->count[idx]);
-	if (unlikely(abs(x) > threshold)) {
-		pg_data_t *pgdat = lruvec_pgdat(lruvec);
-		struct mem_cgroup_per_node *pi;
-
-		for (pi = pn; pi; pi = parent_nodeinfo(pi, pgdat->node_id))
-			atomic_long_add(x, &pi->lruvec_stat[idx]);
-		x = 0;
-	}
-	__this_cpu_write(pn->lruvec_stat_cpu->count[idx], x);
+	/* Update memcg */
+	__mod_memcg_state(memcg, idx, val);
 }
 
 /**
@@ -2289,40 +2263,13 @@ static void drain_all_stock(struct mem_cgroup *root_memcg)
 	mutex_unlock(&percpu_charge_mutex);
 }
 
-static void memcg_flush_lruvec_page_state(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, int cpu)
-{
-	int nid;
-
-	for_each_node(nid) {
-		struct mem_cgroup_per_node *pn = memcg->nodeinfo[nid];
-		unsigned long stat[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
-		struct batched_lruvec_stat *lstatc;
-		int i;
-
-		lstatc = per_cpu_ptr(pn->lruvec_stat_cpu, cpu);
-		for (i = 0; i < NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS; i++) {
-			stat[i] = lstatc->count[i];
-			lstatc->count[i] = 0;
-		}
-
-		do {
-			for (i = 0; i < NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS; i++)
-				atomic_long_add(stat[i], &pn->lruvec_stat[i]);
-		} while ((pn = parent_nodeinfo(pn, nid)));
-	}
-}
-
 static int memcg_hotplug_cpu_dead(unsigned int cpu)
 {
 	struct memcg_stock_pcp *stock;
-	struct mem_cgroup *memcg;
 
 	stock = &per_cpu(memcg_stock, cpu);
 	drain_stock(stock);
 
-	for_each_mem_cgroup(memcg)
-		memcg_flush_lruvec_page_state(memcg, cpu);
-
 	return 0;
 }
 
@@ -5126,17 +5073,9 @@ static int alloc_mem_cgroup_per_node_info(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, int node)
 	if (!pn)
 		return 1;
 
-	pn->lruvec_stat_local = alloc_percpu_gfp(struct lruvec_stat,
-						 GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT);
-	if (!pn->lruvec_stat_local) {
-		kfree(pn);
-		return 1;
-	}
-
-	pn->lruvec_stat_cpu = alloc_percpu_gfp(struct batched_lruvec_stat,
-					       GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT);
-	if (!pn->lruvec_stat_cpu) {
-		free_percpu(pn->lruvec_stat_local);
+	pn->lruvec_stats_percpu = alloc_percpu_gfp(struct lruvec_stats_percpu,
+						   GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT);
+	if (!pn->lruvec_stats_percpu) {
 		kfree(pn);
 		return 1;
 	}
@@ -5157,8 +5096,7 @@ static void free_mem_cgroup_per_node_info(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, int node)
 	if (!pn)
 		return;
 
-	free_percpu(pn->lruvec_stat_cpu);
-	free_percpu(pn->lruvec_stat_local);
+	free_percpu(pn->lruvec_stats_percpu);
 	kfree(pn);
 }
 
@@ -5174,15 +5112,7 @@ static void __mem_cgroup_free(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
 
 static void mem_cgroup_free(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
 {
-	int cpu;
-
 	memcg_wb_domain_exit(memcg);
-	/*
-	 * Flush percpu lruvec stats to guarantee the value
-	 * correctness on parent's and all ancestor levels.
-	 */
-	for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
-		memcg_flush_lruvec_page_state(memcg, cpu);
 	__mem_cgroup_free(memcg);
 }
 
@@ -5415,7 +5345,7 @@ static void mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css, int cpu)
 	struct mem_cgroup *parent = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg);
 	struct memcg_vmstats_percpu *statc;
 	long delta, v;
-	int i;
+	int i, nid;
 
 	statc = per_cpu_ptr(memcg->vmstats_percpu, cpu);
 
@@ -5463,6 +5393,36 @@ static void mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css, int cpu)
 		if (parent)
 			parent->vmstats.events_pending[i] += delta;
 	}
+
+	for_each_node_state(nid, N_MEMORY) {
+		struct mem_cgroup_per_node *pn = memcg->nodeinfo[nid];
+		struct mem_cgroup_per_node *ppn = NULL;
+		struct lruvec_stats_percpu *lstatc;
+
+		if (parent)
+			ppn = parent->nodeinfo[nid];
+
+		lstatc = per_cpu_ptr(pn->lruvec_stats_percpu, cpu);
+
+		for (i = 0; i < NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS; i++) {
+			delta = pn->lruvec_stats.state_pending[i];
+			if (delta)
+				pn->lruvec_stats.state_pending[i] = 0;
+
+			v = READ_ONCE(lstatc->state[i]);
+			if (v != lstatc->state_prev[i]) {
+				delta += v - lstatc->state_prev[i];
+				lstatc->state_prev[i] = v;
+			}
+
+			if (!delta)
+				continue;
+
+			pn->lruvec_stats.state[i] += delta;
+			if (ppn)
+				ppn->lruvec_stats.state_pending[i] += delta;
+		}
+	}
 }
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_MMU
@@ -6396,6 +6356,8 @@ static int memory_numa_stat_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v)
 	int i;
 	struct mem_cgroup *memcg = mem_cgroup_from_seq(m);
 
+	cgroup_rstat_flush(memcg->css.cgroup);
+
 	for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(memory_stats); i++) {
 		int nid;
 
-- 
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* [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats
  2021-06-15 17:44 [PATCH v2 1/2] memcg: switch lruvec stats to rstat Shakeel Butt
@ 2021-06-15 17:44 ` Shakeel Butt
  2021-06-15 19:29   ` Johannes Weiner
  2021-06-24 14:01   ` Michal Koutný
  2021-07-05  5:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] memcg: switch lruvec stats to rstat Huang, Ying
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Shakeel Butt @ 2021-06-15 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tejun Heo, Johannes Weiner, Muchun Song
  Cc: Michal Hocko, Roman Gushchin, Michal Koutný,
	Huang Ying, Andrew Morton, cgroups, linux-mm, linux-kernel,
	Shakeel Butt

At the moment memcg stats are read in four contexts:

1. memcg stat user interfaces
2. dirty throttling
3. page fault
4. memory reclaim

Currently the kernel flushes the stats for first two cases. Flushing the
stats for remaining two casese may have performance impact. Always
flushing the memcg stats on the page fault code path may negatively
impacts the performance of the applications. In addition flushing in the
memory reclaim code path, though treated as slowpath, can become the
source of contention for the global lock taken for stat flushing because
when system or memcg is under memory pressure, many tasks may enter the
reclaim path.

Instead of synchronously flushing the stats, this patch adds support of
asynchronous periodic flushing of the memcg stats. For now the flushing
period is hardcoded to 2*HZ but that can be changed later through maybe
sysctl if need arise.

This patch does add the explicit flushing in the kswapd thread as the
number of kswapd threads which corresponds to the number of nodes on
realistic machines are usually low.

Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
---
Changes since v1:
- use system_unbound_wq for flushing the memcg stats

 include/linux/memcontrol.h | 10 ++++++++++
 mm/memcontrol.c            | 14 ++++++++++++++
 mm/vmscan.c                |  6 ++++++
 3 files changed, 30 insertions(+)

diff --git a/include/linux/memcontrol.h b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
index 0bfa0409af22..f34214382a1c 100644
--- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
+++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
@@ -991,6 +991,12 @@ static inline unsigned long lruvec_page_state_local(struct lruvec *lruvec,
 	return x;
 }
 
+static inline void mem_cgroup_flush_stats(void)
+{
+	if (!mem_cgroup_disabled())
+		cgroup_rstat_flush(root_mem_cgroup->css.cgroup);
+}
+
 void __mod_memcg_lruvec_state(struct lruvec *lruvec, enum node_stat_item idx,
 			      int val);
 void __mod_lruvec_kmem_state(void *p, enum node_stat_item idx, int val);
@@ -1400,6 +1406,10 @@ static inline unsigned long lruvec_page_state_local(struct lruvec *lruvec,
 	return node_page_state(lruvec_pgdat(lruvec), idx);
 }
 
+static inline void mem_cgroup_flush_stats(void)
+{
+}
+
 static inline void __mod_memcg_lruvec_state(struct lruvec *lruvec,
 					    enum node_stat_item idx, int val)
 {
diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
index 6e24fd8c5301..5910658bac84 100644
--- a/mm/memcontrol.c
+++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
@@ -97,6 +97,10 @@ bool cgroup_memory_noswap __ro_after_init;
 static DECLARE_WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD(memcg_cgwb_frn_waitq);
 #endif
 
+/* Periodically flush memcg and lruvec stats. */
+static void flush_memcg_stats(struct work_struct *w);
+static DECLARE_DEFERRABLE_WORK(stats_flush, flush_memcg_stats);
+
 /* Whether legacy memory+swap accounting is active */
 static bool do_memsw_account(void)
 {
@@ -5248,6 +5252,10 @@ static int mem_cgroup_css_online(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css)
 	/* Online state pins memcg ID, memcg ID pins CSS */
 	refcount_set(&memcg->id.ref, 1);
 	css_get(css);
+
+	if (unlikely(mem_cgroup_is_root(memcg)))
+		queue_delayed_work(system_unbound_wq, &stats_flush, 2UL*HZ);
+
 	return 0;
 }
 
@@ -5339,6 +5347,12 @@ static void mem_cgroup_css_reset(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css)
 	memcg_wb_domain_size_changed(memcg);
 }
 
+static void flush_memcg_stats(struct work_struct *w)
+{
+	cgroup_rstat_flush(root_mem_cgroup->css.cgroup);
+	queue_delayed_work(system_unbound_wq, &stats_flush, 2UL*HZ);
+}
+
 static void mem_cgroup_css_rstat_flush(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css, int cpu)
 {
 	struct mem_cgroup *memcg = mem_cgroup_from_css(css);
diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
index a7602f71ec04..7bf9a4241dd9 100644
--- a/mm/vmscan.c
+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -3893,6 +3893,12 @@ static int balance_pgdat(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order, int highest_zoneidx)
 		sc.may_writepage = !laptop_mode && !nr_boost_reclaim;
 		sc.may_swap = !nr_boost_reclaim;
 
+		/*
+		 * Flush the memory cgroup stats, so that we read accurate
+		 * per-memcg lruvec stats for heuristics later.
+		 */
+		mem_cgroup_flush_stats();
+
 		/*
 		 * Do some background aging of the anon list, to give
 		 * pages a chance to be referenced before reclaiming. All
-- 
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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats
  2021-06-15 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats Shakeel Butt
@ 2021-06-15 19:29   ` Johannes Weiner
  2021-06-15 21:52     ` Shakeel Butt
  2021-06-24 14:01   ` Michal Koutný
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2021-06-15 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shakeel Butt
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Muchun Song, Michal Hocko, Roman Gushchin,
	Michal Koutný,
	Huang Ying, Andrew Morton, cgroups, linux-mm, linux-kernel

Hey Shakeel,

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> At the moment memcg stats are read in four contexts:
> 
> 1. memcg stat user interfaces
> 2. dirty throttling
> 3. page fault
> 4. memory reclaim
> 
> Currently the kernel flushes the stats for first two cases. Flushing the
> stats for remaining two casese may have performance impact. Always
> flushing the memcg stats on the page fault code path may negatively
> impacts the performance of the applications. In addition flushing in the
> memory reclaim code path, though treated as slowpath, can become the
> source of contention for the global lock taken for stat flushing because
> when system or memcg is under memory pressure, many tasks may enter the
> reclaim path.
> 
> Instead of synchronously flushing the stats, this patch adds support of
> asynchronous periodic flushing of the memcg stats. For now the flushing
> period is hardcoded to 2*HZ but that can be changed later through maybe
> sysctl if need arise.

I'm concerned that quite a lot can happen in terms of reclaim and page
faults in 2 seconds. It's conceivable that the error of a fixed 2s
flush can actually exceed the error of a fixed percpu batch size.

The way the global vmstat implementation manages error is doing both:
ratelimiting and timelimiting. It uses percpu batching to limit the
error when it gets busy, and periodic flushing to limit the length of
time consumers of those stats could be stuck trying to reach a state
that the batching would otherwise prevent from being reflected.

Maybe we can use a combination of ratelimiting and timelimiting too?

We shouldn't flush on every fault, but what about a percpu ratelimit
that would at least bound the error to NR_CPU instead of nr_cgroups?

For thundering herds during reclaim: as long as they all tried to
flush from the root, only one of them would actually need to do the
work, and we could use trylock. If the lock is already taken, you can
move on knowing that somebody is already doing the shared flush work.

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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats
  2021-06-15 19:29   ` Johannes Weiner
@ 2021-06-15 21:52     ` Shakeel Butt
  2021-06-24 17:46       ` Johannes Weiner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Shakeel Butt @ 2021-06-15 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Muchun Song, Michal Hocko, Roman Gushchin,
	Michal Koutný,
	Huang Ying, Andrew Morton, Cgroups, Linux MM, LKML

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:29 PM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Shakeel,
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > At the moment memcg stats are read in four contexts:
> >
> > 1. memcg stat user interfaces
> > 2. dirty throttling
> > 3. page fault
> > 4. memory reclaim
> >
> > Currently the kernel flushes the stats for first two cases. Flushing the
> > stats for remaining two casese may have performance impact. Always
> > flushing the memcg stats on the page fault code path may negatively
> > impacts the performance of the applications. In addition flushing in the
> > memory reclaim code path, though treated as slowpath, can become the
> > source of contention for the global lock taken for stat flushing because
> > when system or memcg is under memory pressure, many tasks may enter the
> > reclaim path.
> >
> > Instead of synchronously flushing the stats, this patch adds support of
> > asynchronous periodic flushing of the memcg stats. For now the flushing
> > period is hardcoded to 2*HZ but that can be changed later through maybe
> > sysctl if need arise.
>
> I'm concerned that quite a lot can happen in terms of reclaim and page
> faults in 2 seconds. It's conceivable that the error of a fixed 2s
> flush can actually exceed the error of a fixed percpu batch size.
>

Yes, that is possible.

> The way the global vmstat implementation manages error is doing both:
> ratelimiting and timelimiting. It uses percpu batching to limit the
> error when it gets busy, and periodic flushing to limit the length of
> time consumers of those stats could be stuck trying to reach a state
> that the batching would otherwise prevent from being reflected.
>
> Maybe we can use a combination of ratelimiting and timelimiting too?
>
> We shouldn't flush on every fault, but what about a percpu ratelimit
> that would at least bound the error to NR_CPU instead of nr_cgroups?
>

Couple questions here:

First, to convert the error bound to NR_CPU from nr_cgroups, I think
we have to move from (delta > threshold) comparison to
(num_update_events > threshold). Previously an increment event
followed by decrement would keep the delta to 0 (or same) but after
this change num_update_events would be 2. Is that ok?

Second, do we want to synchronously flush the stats when we cross the
threshold on update or asynchronously by queuing the flush with zero
delay?

> For thundering herds during reclaim: as long as they all tried to
> flush from the root, only one of them would actually need to do the
> work, and we could use trylock. If the lock is already taken, you can
> move on knowing that somebody is already doing the shared flush work.

Yes, this makes sense.

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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats
  2021-06-15 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats Shakeel Butt
  2021-06-15 19:29   ` Johannes Weiner
@ 2021-06-24 14:01   ` Michal Koutný
  2021-06-24 15:00     ` Shakeel Butt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michal Koutný @ 2021-06-24 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shakeel Butt
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Johannes Weiner, Muchun Song, Michal Hocko,
	Roman Gushchin, Huang Ying, Andrew Morton, cgroups, linux-mm,
	linux-kernel

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Hello Shakeel.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
> At the moment memcg stats are read in four contexts:
> 
> 1. memcg stat user interfaces
> 2. dirty throttling
> 3. page fault
> 4. memory reclaim

Sorry for being dense or ignorant -- what do you refer to with the point
no. 3 (memcg stats reader during page fault)?

Thanks,
Michal

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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats
  2021-06-24 14:01   ` Michal Koutný
@ 2021-06-24 15:00     ` Shakeel Butt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Shakeel Butt @ 2021-06-24 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michal Koutný
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Johannes Weiner, Muchun Song, Michal Hocko,
	Roman Gushchin, Huang Ying, Andrew Morton, Cgroups, Linux MM,
	LKML

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 7:01 AM Michal Koutný <mkoutny@suse.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Shakeel.
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
> > At the moment memcg stats are read in four contexts:
> >
> > 1. memcg stat user interfaces
> > 2. dirty throttling
> > 3. page fault
> > 4. memory reclaim
>
> Sorry for being dense or ignorant -- what do you refer to with the point
> no. 3 (memcg stats reader during page fault)?
>

Yes, specifically workingset_refault() which reads lruvec stats
directly through lruvec_page_state and indirectly through
lru_note_cost_page.

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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats
  2021-06-15 21:52     ` Shakeel Butt
@ 2021-06-24 17:46       ` Johannes Weiner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2021-06-24 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shakeel Butt
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Muchun Song, Michal Hocko, Roman Gushchin,
	Michal Koutný,
	Huang Ying, Andrew Morton, Cgroups, Linux MM, LKML

Hey Shakeel,

Sorry about the delay.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 02:52:37PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:29 PM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > The way the global vmstat implementation manages error is doing both:
> > ratelimiting and timelimiting. It uses percpu batching to limit the
> > error when it gets busy, and periodic flushing to limit the length of
> > time consumers of those stats could be stuck trying to reach a state
> > that the batching would otherwise prevent from being reflected.
> >
> > Maybe we can use a combination of ratelimiting and timelimiting too?
> >
> > We shouldn't flush on every fault, but what about a percpu ratelimit
> > that would at least bound the error to NR_CPU instead of nr_cgroups?
> >
> 
> Couple questions here:
> 
> First, to convert the error bound to NR_CPU from nr_cgroups, I think
> we have to move from (delta > threshold) comparison to
> (num_update_events > threshold). Previously an increment event
> followed by decrement would keep the delta to 0 (or same) but after
> this change num_update_events would be 2. Is that ok?

Yeah, I think that's fine. Or at least I can't think of a real-world
application that would inc and dec the same counter over and over and
so would do much better with delta spilling over event ratelimiting.

And the ratelimiting should already ensure by itself that the cost is
at least acceptable when continuously updating and reading counters.

> Second, do we want to synchronously flush the stats when we cross the
> threshold on update or asynchronously by queuing the flush with zero
> delay?

I think flushing by worker is better because we can see updates from
all sorts of contexts with all sorts of locks held. That could make
for some difficult dependencies and latency sources when serializing
those on cgroup_rstat_lock.

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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] memcg: switch lruvec stats to rstat
  2021-06-15 17:44 [PATCH v2 1/2] memcg: switch lruvec stats to rstat Shakeel Butt
  2021-06-15 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] memcg: periodically flush the memcg stats Shakeel Butt
@ 2021-07-05  5:30 ` Huang, Ying
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Huang, Ying @ 2021-07-05  5:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shakeel Butt
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Johannes Weiner, Muchun Song, Michal Hocko,
	Roman Gushchin, Michal Koutný,
	Andrew Morton, cgroups, linux-mm, linux-kernel

Hi, Shakeel,

Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> writes:

> The commit 2d146aa3aa84 ("mm: memcontrol: switch to rstat") but skipped
> the conversion of the lruvec stats as such stats are read in the
> performance critical code paths and flushing stats may have impacted the
> performances of the applications. This patch converts the lruvec stats
> to rstat and later patch adds the periodic flushing of the stats and
> thus remove the need to synchronously flushing the stats in the
> performance critical code paths.
>
> The rstat conversion comes with the price i.e. memory cost. Effectively
> this patch reverts the savings done by the commit f3344adf38bd ("mm:
> memcontrol: optimize per-lruvec stats counter memory usage"). However
> this cost is justified due to negative impact of the inaccurate lruvec
> stats on many heuristics. One such case is reported in [1].
>
> The memory reclaim code is filled with plethora of heuristics and many
> of those heuristics reads the lruvec stats. So, inaccurate stats can
> make such heuristics ineffective. [1] reports the impact of inaccurate
> lruvec stats on the "cache trim mode" heuristic. Inaccurate lruvec stats
> can impact the deactivation and aging anon heuristics as well.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20210311004449.1170308-1-ying.huang@intel.com/

Sorry for late reply.  I have just verified that this patchset can
resolve the problem as in the above link for me.  Thanks!

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

> Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
> ---
> Changes since v1:
> - no changes
>

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