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From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Configure.help editorial policy
Date: 27 Dec 2001 14:10:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8FeKjMmXw-B@khms.westfalen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1008883684.4704.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201605310.9934-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201605310.9934-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca> <1008883684.4704.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

reid.hekman@ndsu.nodak.edu (Reid Hekman)  wrote on 20.12.01 in <1008883684.4704.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>:

> On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 15:07, Mark Hahn wrote:

> > > 1024 decimal kilobyte disk
> > > 8.4 decimal gigabyte disks

> > though as your example showed, there's very little, if any,
> > ambiguity: disk is always decimal, memory is always binary, etc.

Ah, but the problem with this is that it's *wrong*.

Disk is not always decimal. Nor is it always binary. Most disk sizes are  
an unholy mixture of the two that deserves a stake through the heart,  
where 1 GB = 1,024,000,000 bytes.

If even people here do not understand how this works, then can it possibly  
be the right way of doing things?!

> More importantly, less educated users than yourself might not strike up
> the distinction between disk and memory units. The common example being,
> "why does my 9.1GB hard drive show up as 8.9GB?" Rather than explain

A current "9.1GB" hard disk would, if dc didn't lie to me, be either 9.3  
GB (decimal) or 8.7 GiB (binary).

> For me, my reasons for full names are consistency and aesthetics --
> allowing us to sidestep the abortion that the IEC has created of SI
> units.

So you'll be saying "9.3 milliards of bytes" - or is it "billions" where  
you live?

MfG Kai

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-27 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201605310.9934-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2001-12-20 21:28 ` Configure.help editorial policy Reid Hekman
2001-12-28 13:10   ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-27 12:10 ` Kai Henningsen [this message]
2001-12-30 12:06 Martin Knoblauch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-30  4:10 Timothy A. Seufert
2001-12-27 20:20 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-27 15:42 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-27 17:33 ` Timo Jantunen
2001-12-25 20:54 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-24 11:08 Matt Reuther
2001-12-23 23:44 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-23  4:06 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-25 11:40 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-23  3:40 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-22 20:32 Timothy A. Seufert
2001-12-27 12:26 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 14:55   ` Davidovac Zoran
2001-12-22 13:30 Per Jessen
2001-12-22  2:42 Thomas Hood
2001-12-21 19:34 Timothy Covell
2001-12-21 20:24 ` Chris Ricker
2001-12-22  2:01   ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-20 21:17 Petr Vandrovec
2001-12-20 19:32 Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-20 20:27 ` Reid Hekman
2001-12-20 20:23   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-22  0:04     ` Rob Landley
2001-12-20 22:41   ` Mike Eldridge
2001-12-21 15:47   ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-20 22:49 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-20 23:31 ` David Garfield
2001-12-20 23:52   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21  0:20     ` Tom Rini
2001-12-21 18:43   ` David Garfield
2001-12-21 18:40     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21 19:18       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 20:09         ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-21 23:03           ` Jeff Mcadams
2001-12-27 10:35             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-21 20:10         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-12-21 20:31           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 20:36             ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-21 20:47               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 21:00                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-12-21 21:06                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-21 21:10                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 21:33                     ` Thomas Dodd
2001-12-21 22:05                       ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-22  0:07                     ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-22  0:27                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-23 22:46                     ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-21 20:57             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-12-21 21:03               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 21:09                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-21 21:28             ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-27 11:12             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 11:22             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 11:18           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-21 20:11         ` Timo Jantunen
2001-12-22  0:32         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-22 16:14           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-27 19:44             ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-12-27 20:18               ` Acrimon Beet
2001-12-27 10:45         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 14:19           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-21 21:17       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-23 22:42         ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-23 22:53           ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-23 22:46             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-26 17:44               ` Riley Williams
2001-12-26 22:17                 ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-26 23:34                   ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27  0:08                     ` Riley Williams
2001-12-27  0:52                       ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27 21:34                         ` Riley Williams
2001-12-27 23:27                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-27  6:02                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-27 11:24                       ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27 15:09                         ` Martin Mares
2001-12-28  3:23                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-28  9:58                           ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-27  0:09                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-27  0:39                   ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27 19:46                     ` Riley Williams
2001-12-27 11:46               ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 21:42                 ` Riley Williams
2001-12-23 23:00             ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-23 23:10               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-23 23:12                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-24  6:25           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-12-27 15:15             ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-12-21 22:53       ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-21 22:55         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21 23:07         ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-22 19:40         ` T. A.
2001-12-22  0:12       ` Rob Landley
2001-12-22  9:58         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-23  9:40           ` Rob Landley
2001-12-23 19:11             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-27 11:35         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-23  9:47       ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-27 11:41       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-21 19:12     ` David Weinehall
2001-12-22  4:49       ` Keith Owens
2001-12-21 20:23     ` David Garfield
2001-12-21 20:56       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21 10:36 ` Mike Jagdis
2001-12-22  0:23   ` Rob Landley
2001-12-22  8:33     ` Eric Windisch
2001-12-22  8:53     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-23  9:17 ` David Woodhouse
     [not found] ` <esr@thyrsus.com>
2001-12-27 11:57   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 14:22     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-27 16:42       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-29 17:22         ` Dan Hopper

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