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From: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl
To: bcrl@redhat.com, cw@f00f.org
Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, garfield@irving.iisd.sra.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@conectiva.com.br
Subject: Re: Configure.help editorial policy
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 04:06:50 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <UTC200112230406.EAA67448.aeb@cwi.nl> (raw)

Benjamin LaHaise writes:

> GiB is not a useful standard because NOBODY USES IT.

If everybody waits until all others use it, nothing will
ever happen. But in fact usage has been increasing over the
past two years. Also if one restricts attention to the Linux world.

But in fact the main purpose is to emphasize that 1000000 and
1048576 are different numbers and therefore need different
abbreviations. M always means 1000000. Mi always means 1048576.
There are not many contexts where an abbreviation for 1048576
is useful, so no great use is ever expected.
The goal is not to promote the abbreviation Gi.
The goal is to stop the people who believe that k means 1024.


Rik van Riel writes:

> the kB vs KiB mess is so ambiguous and complex

Mistake. k always means 1000. Ki always means 1024.

> In many cases binary and decimal units are mixed,
> leading to something which is impossible to "get right".
> Disk space would be one example of this.

No. All disk manufacturers only use decimal units.

Andries


             reply	other threads:[~2001-12-23  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-23  4:06 Andries.Brouwer [this message]
2001-12-25 11:40 ` Configure.help editorial policy Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-30 12:06 Martin Knoblauch
2001-12-30  4:10 Timothy A. Seufert
2001-12-27 20:20 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-27 15:42 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-27 17:33 ` Timo Jantunen
2001-12-25 20:54 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-24 11:08 Matt Reuther
2001-12-23 23:44 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-23  3:40 Andries.Brouwer
2001-12-22 20:32 Timothy A. Seufert
2001-12-27 12:26 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 14:55   ` Davidovac Zoran
2001-12-22 13:30 Per Jessen
2001-12-22  2:42 Thomas Hood
2001-12-21 19:34 Timothy Covell
2001-12-21 20:24 ` Chris Ricker
2001-12-22  2:01   ` Timothy Covell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112201605310.9934-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2001-12-20 21:28 ` Reid Hekman
2001-12-28 13:10   ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-27 12:10 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-20 21:17 Petr Vandrovec
2001-12-20 19:32 Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-20 20:27 ` Reid Hekman
2001-12-20 20:23   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-22  0:04     ` Rob Landley
2001-12-20 22:41   ` Mike Eldridge
2001-12-21 15:47   ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-20 22:49 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-20 23:31 ` David Garfield
2001-12-20 23:52   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21  0:20     ` Tom Rini
2001-12-21 18:43   ` David Garfield
2001-12-21 18:40     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21 19:18       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 20:09         ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-21 23:03           ` Jeff Mcadams
2001-12-27 10:35             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-21 20:10         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-12-21 20:31           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 20:36             ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-21 20:47               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 21:00                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-12-21 21:06                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-21 21:10                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 21:33                     ` Thomas Dodd
2001-12-21 22:05                       ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-22  0:07                     ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-22  0:27                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-23 22:46                     ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-21 20:57             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-12-21 21:03               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-21 21:09                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-21 21:28             ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-12-27 11:12             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 11:22             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 11:18           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-21 20:11         ` Timo Jantunen
2001-12-22  0:32         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-22 16:14           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-27 19:44             ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-12-27 20:18               ` Acrimon Beet
2001-12-27 10:45         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 14:19           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-21 21:17       ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-23 22:42         ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-23 22:53           ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-23 22:46             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-26 17:44               ` Riley Williams
2001-12-26 22:17                 ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-26 23:34                   ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27  0:08                     ` Riley Williams
2001-12-27  0:52                       ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27 21:34                         ` Riley Williams
2001-12-27 23:27                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-27  6:02                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-27 11:24                       ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27 15:09                         ` Martin Mares
2001-12-28  3:23                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-12-28  9:58                           ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-27  0:09                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-27  0:39                   ` Dominik Mierzejewski
2001-12-27 19:46                     ` Riley Williams
2001-12-27 11:46               ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 21:42                 ` Riley Williams
2001-12-23 23:00             ` Cameron Simpson
2001-12-23 23:10               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-23 23:12                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-24  6:25           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-12-27 15:15             ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-12-21 22:53       ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-21 22:55         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21 23:07         ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-22 19:40         ` T. A.
2001-12-22  0:12       ` Rob Landley
2001-12-22  9:58         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-23  9:40           ` Rob Landley
2001-12-23 19:11             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-27 11:35         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-23  9:47       ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-27 11:41       ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-21 19:12     ` David Weinehall
2001-12-22  4:49       ` Keith Owens
2001-12-21 20:23     ` David Garfield
2001-12-21 20:56       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-21 10:36 ` Mike Jagdis
2001-12-22  0:23   ` Rob Landley
2001-12-22  8:33     ` Eric Windisch
2001-12-22  8:53     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-23  9:17 ` David Woodhouse
     [not found] ` <esr@thyrsus.com>
2001-12-27 11:57   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-27 14:22     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-27 16:42       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-29 17:22         ` Dan Hopper

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