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From: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org, song@kernel.org,
	lucas.de.marchi@gmail.com, lucas.demarchi@intel.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu, peterz@infradead.org,
	rppt@kernel.org, dave@stgolabs.net, willy@infradead.org,
	vbabka@suse.cz, mhocko@suse.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	colin.i.king@gmail.com, jim.cromie@gmail.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, jbaron@akamai.com,
	rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, yujie.liu@intel.com,
	david@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, hch@lst.de,
	patches@lists.linux.dev, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pmladek@suse.com, prarit@redhat.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, lennart@poettering.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] module: add support to avoid duplicates early on load
Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 13:40:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8fc5b26b-d2f6-0c8f-34a1-af085dbef155@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230524213620.3509138-3-mcgrof@kernel.org>

On 5/24/23 23:36, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> Add support to use the new kread_uniq_fd() to avoid duplicate kernel
> reads on modules. At the cost of about ~945 bytes to your kernel size,
> enabling this on a 255 CPU x86_64 qemu guest this saves about ~1.8 GiB
> of memory during boot which would otherwise be free'd, and reduces boot
> time by about ~11 seconds.
> 
> Userspace loads modules through finit_module(), this in turn will
> use vmalloc space up to 3 times:
> 
>   a) The kernel_read_file() call
>   b) Optional module decompression
>   c) Our final copy of the module
> 
> Commit 064f4536d139 ("module: avoid allocation if module is already
> present and ready") shows a graph of the amount of vmalloc space
> observed allocated but freed for duplicate module request which end
> up in the trash bin. Since there is a linear relationship with the
> number of CPUs eventually this will bite us and you end up not being
> able to boot. That commit put a stop gap for c) but to avoid the
> vmalloc() space wasted on a) and b) we need to detect duplicates
> earlier.
> 
> We could just have userspace fix this, but as reviewed at LSFMM 2023
> this year in Vancouver, fixing this in userspace can be complex and we
> also can't know when userpace is fixed. Fixing this in kernel turned
> out to be easy with the inode and with a simple kconfig option we can
> let users / distros decide if this full stop gap is worthy to enable.

kmod normally uses finit_module() only if a module is not compressed,
otherwise it decompresses it first and then invokes init_module().

Looking at Fedora and openSUSE Tumbleweed, they compress kernel modules
with xz and zstd, respectively. They also have their kernels built
without any CONFIG_MODULE_COMPRESS_{GZIP,XZ,ZSTD} options.

It means that these and similarly organized distributions end up using
init_module(), and adding complexity to optimize finit_module() wouldn't
actually help in their case.

-- Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-25 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-24 21:36 [PATCH 0/2] module: avoid all memory pressure due to duplicates Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-24 21:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs/kernel_read_file: add support for duplicate detection Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-24 21:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-24 21:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-24 22:07       ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-25  4:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-25 18:08       ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-25 18:35         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-25 18:50         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-25 19:32           ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-25  7:01     ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-24 21:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] module: add support to avoid duplicates early on load Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-25 11:40   ` Petr Pavlu [this message]
2023-05-25 16:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-25 16:42       ` Greg KH
2023-05-25 18:22         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-25 17:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-25 18:45       ` Lucas De Marchi
2023-05-25 21:12         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-25 22:02           ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-26  1:39             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-29  8:58               ` Johan Hovold
2023-05-29 11:00                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-29 12:44                   ` Johan Hovold
2023-05-29 15:18                     ` Johan Hovold
2023-05-30  1:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-30  9:40                         ` Johan Hovold
2023-06-05 12:25                           ` Johan Hovold
2023-05-30 16:22                         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-30 17:16                           ` Lucas De Marchi
2023-05-30 19:41                             ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-30 22:17                               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-31  5:30                                 ` Lucas De Marchi
2023-05-31  0:31                           ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-31  7:51                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-31 16:57                             ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-06-02 15:19                               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-02 16:04                                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-06-05 11:26                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-05 15:17                                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-06-05 15:28                                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-06-28 18:52                                         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-06-28 20:14                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-28 22:07                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-28 23:17                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-29  0:18                                                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-06-02 16:06                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-02 16:37                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-30 22:45                         ` Dan Williams
2023-06-04 14:26                         ` Rudi Heitbaum
2023-05-29 17:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-30 10:01                       ` Johan Hovold
2023-05-25 16:54     ` Lucas De Marchi

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