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From: "Trenton D. Adams" <trenton.d.adams@gmail.com>
To: David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>
Cc: Christian Kujau <lists@nerdbynature.de>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:14:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b1675090904022014t27e7f75ev1ca93cba94737c36@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b1675090904022013t6c892b9bo91eab0fd7091bfbe@mail.gmail.com>

I'm really sorry, I just realized I hijacked this thread.  I'll stop now.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Trenton D. Adams
<trenton.d.adams@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:58 PM, David Rees <drees76@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Trenton D. Adams
>>> That's the odd thing, I was setting them to 2 and 1.  I was just
>>> looking at the 2.6.29 code, and it should have made a difference.  I
>>> don't know what version of the kernel I was using at the time.  And,
>>> I'm not sure if I had the 1M fsync tests in place at the time either,
>>> to be sure about what I was testing.  It could be that I wasn't being
>>> very scientific about it at the time.  Thanks though, that setting
>>> makes a huge difference.
>>
>> Well, it depends on how much memory you have.  Keep in mind that those
>> are percentages - so if you have 2GB RAM, that's the same as setting
>> it to 40MB and 20MB respectively - both are a lot larger than the 1M
>> you were setting the dirty*bytes vm knobs to.
>>
>> I've got a problematic server with 8GB RAM.  Even if set both to 1,
>> that's 80MB and the crappy disks I have in it will often only write
>> 10-20MB/s or less due to the seekiness of the workload.  That means
>> delays of 5-10 seconds worst case which isn't fun.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>
> Yeah, I just finished doing the calculation. :P  40M is what I'm
> seeing.  Yeah, that sounds like the same as my problem.  Even setting
> it to 10M dirty_bytes has a very serious latency problem.  I'm glad
> that option was added, because 1M works much better.  I'll have to
> change my shell script to dynamically tune on that.  Because under
> normal load, I want the 40M+ of queueing.  It's just when things get
> really heavy, and stuff starts getting flushed, that this problem
> starts happening.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-03  3:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-27 12:48 EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-28  1:22 ` Kyungmin Park
2009-03-29 12:31   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:54     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:26 ` replace() system call needed (was Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS) Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 12:42   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:50     ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:00       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:02         ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:07           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:22             ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-29 13:55               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:40             ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:57               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 14:00                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-30 17:19       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 22:11         ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:01     ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-29 13:06       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-30 15:58   ` Diego Calleja
2009-04-03  0:09 ` EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS Christian Kujau
2009-04-03  0:24   ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:28     ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:38       ` Christian Kujau
2009-04-03  0:54         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:54         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  0:59           ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  1:55       ` David Rees
2009-04-03  2:05         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:19           ` David Rees
2009-04-03  2:28             ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:58               ` David Rees
2009-04-03  3:13                 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  3:14                   ` Trenton D. Adams [this message]
2009-04-03  5:02                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03  5:15                   ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  6:30                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03 18:53                       ` Chris Adams
2009-04-03 18:05                   ` David Rees
2009-04-09 20:17                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-03  2:26         ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:05   ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03  2:45     ` Christian Kujau
2009-04-03  2:49       ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  6:53   ` Artem Bityutskiy
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