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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
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Subject: RE: [RFC v2] /dev/iommu uAPI proposal
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:00:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5433FC19698D3A86B63850128CF79@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cec41751-c300-40f2-a8d6-f4916fb4a34e@redhat.com>

> From: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 3:17 PM
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> On 8/5/21 2:36 AM, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> >> From: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 11:59 PM
> >>
> > [...]
> >>> 1.2. Attach Device to I/O address space
> >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>
> >>> Device attach/bind is initiated through passthrough framework uAPI.
> >>>
> >>> Device attaching is allowed only after a device is successfully bound to
> >>> the IOMMU fd. User should provide a device cookie when binding the
> >>> device through VFIO uAPI. This cookie is used when the user queries
> >>> device capability/format, issues per-device iotlb invalidation and
> >>> receives per-device I/O page fault data via IOMMU fd.
> >>>
> >>> Successful binding puts the device into a security context which isolates
> >>> its DMA from the rest system. VFIO should not allow user to access the
> >> s/from the rest system/from the rest of the system
> >>> device before binding is completed. Similarly, VFIO should prevent the
> >>> user from unbinding the device before user access is withdrawn.
> >> With Intel scalable IOV, I understand you could assign an RID/PASID to
> >> one VM and another one to another VM (which is not the case for ARM).
> Is
> >> it a targetted use case?How would it be handled? Is it related to the
> >> sub-groups evoked hereafter?
> > Not related to sub-group. Each mdev is bound to the IOMMU fd
> respectively
> > with the defPASID which represents the mdev.
> But how does it work in term of security. The device (RID) is bound to
> an IOMMU fd. But then each SID/PASID may be working for a different VM.
> How do you detect this is safe as each SID can work safely for a
> different VM versus the ARM case where it is not possible.

PASID is managed by the parent driver, which knows which PASID to be 
used given a mdev when later attaching it to an IOASID. 

> 
> 1.3 says
> "
> 
> 1)  A successful binding call for the first device in the group creates
>     the security context for the entire group, by:
> "
> What does it mean for above scalable IOV use case?
> 

This is a good question (as Alex raised) which needs more explanation 
in next version:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20210712124150.2bf421d1.alex.williamson@redhat.com/

In general we need provide different helpers for binding pdev/mdev/
sw mdev. 1.3 in v2 describes the behavior for pdev via iommu_register_
device(). for mdev a new helper (e.g. iommu_register_device_pasid()) 
is required and then the IOMMU-API will also provide a pasid variation 
for creating security context per pasid. sw mdev will also have its binding 
helper to indicate no routing info required in ioasid attaching.

Thanks
Kevin 

      reply	other threads:[~2021-08-10  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-09  7:48 [RFC v2] /dev/iommu uAPI proposal Tian, Kevin
2021-07-09 21:50 ` Alex Williamson
2021-07-12  1:22   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-12 18:41     ` Alex Williamson
2021-07-12 23:41       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-12 23:56       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-13 12:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-13 16:26           ` Alex Williamson
2021-07-13 16:32             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-13 22:48               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-13 23:02                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-13 23:20                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-13 23:22                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-13 23:24                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-15  3:20 ` Shenming Lu
2021-07-15  3:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-15  6:29     ` Shenming Lu
2021-07-15  6:49       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-15  8:14         ` Shenming Lu
2021-07-15 12:48         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-15 13:57           ` Raj, Ashok
2021-07-15 15:23             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-15 16:21               ` Raj, Ashok
2021-07-15 17:18                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-15 17:48                   ` Raj, Ashok
2021-07-15 17:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-15 18:05                       ` Raj, Ashok
2021-07-15 18:13                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-16  1:20                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-16 12:20                             ` Shenming Lu
2021-07-21  2:13                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-22 16:30                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-16 18:30                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-21  2:11                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-26  4:50 ` David Gibson
2021-07-28  4:04   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-03  1:50     ` David Gibson
2021-08-03  3:19       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-06  4:45         ` David Gibson
2021-08-06 12:32           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-10  6:10             ` David Gibson
2021-08-09  8:34           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-10  4:47             ` David Gibson
2021-08-10  6:04               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-07-30 14:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-02  2:49     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-04 14:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-04 22:59         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-05 11:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-05 22:44             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-06  4:47         ` David Gibson
2021-08-03  1:58     ` David Gibson
2021-08-04 14:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-08-06  4:24         ` David Gibson
2021-07-26  8:14 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-07-28  4:05   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-04 15:59 ` Eric Auger
2021-08-05  0:36   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-08-10  7:17     ` Eric Auger
2021-08-10  9:00       ` Tian, Kevin [this message]

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