From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/19] x86: use __uaccess_begin_nospec and ASM_IFENCE in get_user paths
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:11:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFwu2L+YK-DtfCbtsZL+DopgksfnpazA8ja=FW9_4MNeyg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <151571802814.27429.12886210130791656117.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com>
This patch doesn't affect arch/x86/lib/getuser.S, which I find surprising.
Of all the user access functions, I actually think that get_user() is
the one most likely to have the result then used speculatively as an
index (the required second dependent read to actually leak data).
I do *not* see people doing "copy_from_user()" and then somehow using
the thing as an index to another array. I mean, it can happen (copy a
structure, use a member in that structure), but it doesn't seem to be
the most likely thing.
The most likely thing would seem to be some random ioctl() do a
"get_user()" to get an index, and then using that index. That would
seem to be one of the easier ways to perhaps get that kind of kernel
spectre attack.
Adding the ASM_IFENCE to __get_user_X() in arch/x86/lib/getuser.S
would seem to go naturally together with the copy_user_64.S changes in
this patch.
Is there some reason __get_user_X() was overlooked? Those are _the_
most common user accessor functions that do the address limit
checking.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-12 1:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-12 0:46 [PATCH v2 00/19] prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:46 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] Documentation: document array_ptr Dan Williams
2018-01-12 10:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-01-16 21:01 ` Kees Cook
2018-01-12 0:46 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] arm64: implement ifence_array_ptr() Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:46 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] arm: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:46 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] x86: implement ifence() Dan Williams
2018-01-12 2:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 3:39 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:46 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] x86: implement ifence_array_ptr() and array_ptr_mask() Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:46 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] asm-generic/barrier: mask speculative execution flows Dan Williams
2018-01-12 2:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-13 0:41 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-15 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] x86: introduce __uaccess_begin_nospec and ASM_IFENCE Dan Williams
2018-01-12 17:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-12 18:21 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 18:58 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-12 19:26 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-12 20:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] x86: use __uaccess_begin_nospec and ASM_IFENCE in get_user paths Dan Williams
2018-01-12 1:11 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-01-12 1:14 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] ipv6: prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] ipv4: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 7:59 ` Greg KH
2018-01-12 18:47 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-13 8:56 ` Greg KH
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] vfs, fdtable: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] userns: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] udf: " Dan Williams
2018-01-15 10:32 ` Jan Kara
2018-01-15 17:49 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] [media] uvcvideo: " Dan Williams
2018-08-06 21:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] carl9170: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 14:42 ` Christian Lamparter
2018-01-12 18:39 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 20:01 ` Christian Lamparter
2018-01-12 23:05 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] p54: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:47 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] qla2xxx: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 1:19 ` James Bottomley
2018-01-12 5:38 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12 6:05 ` James Bottomley
2018-01-12 0:48 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] cw1200: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 0:48 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] net: mpls: " Dan Williams
2018-01-12 1:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] " Linus Torvalds
2018-01-12 1:41 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-18 13:18 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-18 16:58 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-18 17:05 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-18 21:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-13 0:15 ` Tony Luck
2018-01-13 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-16 19:21 ` Tony Luck
2018-01-12 10:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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