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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 00/14] Dynamic Kernel Stacks
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:19:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bATJ7_EUszq4nr0AuZXG76nUhDs9osbxPUs=mLPFtW8Zg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZfY8PSnsLtkHBBZF@casper.infradead.org>

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:41 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 03:17:57PM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > Expanding on Mathew's idea of an interface for dynamic kernel stack
> > sizes, here's what I'm thinking:
> >
> > - Kernel Threads: Create all kernel threads with a fully populated
> > THREAD_SIZE stack.  (i.e. 16K)
> > - User Threads: Create all user threads with THREAD_SIZE kernel stack
> > but only the top page mapped. (i.e. 4K)
> > - In enter_from_user_mode(): Expand the thread stack to 16K by mapping
> > three additional pages from the per-CPU stack cache. This function is
> > called early in kernel entry points.
> > - exit_to_user_mode(): Unmap the extra three pages and return them to
> > the per-CPU cache. This function is called late in the kernel exit
> > path.
> >
> > Both of the above hooks are called with IRQ disabled on all kernel
> > entries whether through interrupts and syscalls, and they are called
> > early/late enough that 4K is enough to handle the rest of entry/exit.
>
> At what point do we replenish the per-CPU stash of pages?  If we're
> 12kB deep in the stack and call mutex_lock(), we can be scheduled out,
> and then the new thread can make a syscall.  Do we just assume that
> get_free_page() can sleep at kernel entry (seems reasonable)?  I don't
> think this is an infeasible problem, I'd just like it to be described.

Once irq is enabled it is perfectly OK to sleep and wait for the stack
pages to become available.

The following user entries that enable interrupts:
do_user_addr_fault()
   local_irq_enable()

do_syscall_64()
  syscall_enter_from_user_mode()
    local_irq_enable()

__do_fast_syscall_32()
  syscall_enter_from_user_mode_prepare()
    local_irq_enable()

exc_debug_user()
  local_irq_enable()

do_int3_user()
  cond_local_irq_enable()

With those it is perfectly OK to sleep and wait for the page to become
available when we are in a situation where the per-cpu cache is empty,
and alloc_page(GFP_NOWAIT) does not succeed.

The other interrupts from userland never enable IRQs. We can have
3-pages per-cpu reserved for handling specifically IRQ-never enable
cases, as there cannot be more than one ever needed.

Pasha

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-17 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-11 16:46 [RFC 00/14] Dynamic Kernel Stacks Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 01/14] task_stack.h: remove obsolete __HAVE_ARCH_KSTACK_END check Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:36   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 02/14] fork: Clean-up ifdef logic around stack allocation Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 03/14] fork: Clean-up naming of vm_strack/vm_struct variables in vmap stacks code Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:42   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-19 16:32     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 04/14] fork: Remove assumption that vm_area->nr_pages equals to THREAD_SIZE Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:45   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:14     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 05/14] fork: check charging success before zeroing stack Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12 15:57   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-12 16:52     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 06/14] fork: zero vmap stack using clear_page() instead of memset() Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12  7:15   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-03-12 16:53     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14  7:55       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-14 13:52         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:48   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:15     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 07/14] fork: use the first page in stack to store vm_stack in cached_stacks Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 08/14] fork: separate vmap stack alloction and free calls Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 15:18   ` Jeff Xie
2024-03-14 17:14     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:51   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:15     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 09/14] mm/vmalloc: Add a get_vm_area_node() and vmap_pages_range_noflush() public functions Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 10/14] fork: Dynamic Kernel Stacks Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 19:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2024-03-11 19:55     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 11/14] x86: add support for " Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 22:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-11 23:10     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 23:33       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-03-11 23:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-12  0:08         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12  0:23           ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 23:34     ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-11 23:41       ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-11 23:56         ` Nadav Amit
2024-03-12  0:02           ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-12  7:20             ` Nadav Amit
2024-03-12  0:53           ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-12  1:25             ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-12  2:16               ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-12  2:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-12 21:58   ` Andi Kleen
2024-03-13 10:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-03-13 13:43     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-13 15:28       ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-13 16:12         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-03-14 14:03           ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 18:26             ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 12/14] task_stack.h: Clean-up stack_not_used() implementation Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 13/14] task_stack.h: Add stack_not_used() support for dynamic stack Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 14/14] fork: Dynamic Kernel Stack accounting Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 17:09 ` [RFC 00/14] Dynamic Kernel Stacks Mateusz Guzik
2024-03-11 18:58   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 19:21     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-03-11 19:55       ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-12 19:45   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12 21:36     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-14 19:05       ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-14 19:23         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 19:28           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-14 19:34             ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 19:49               ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-12 22:18     ` David Laight
2024-03-14 19:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-14 19:53     ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-14 19:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-14 19:58         ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-15  3:13         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-15  3:39           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-16 19:17             ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17  0:41               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-17  1:32                 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-17 14:19                 ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2024-03-17 14:43               ` Brian Gerst
2024-03-17 16:15                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 21:30                   ` Brian Gerst
2024-03-18 14:59                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 21:02                       ` Brian Gerst
2024-03-19 14:56                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 18:57               ` David Laight
2024-03-18 15:09                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:13                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:19                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-18 15:30                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:53                       ` David Laight
2024-03-18 16:57                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:38               ` David Laight
2024-03-18 17:00                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 17:37                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-15  4:17           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-17  0:47     ` H. Peter Anvin

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