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From: Pavel Tatashin <patatash@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: "James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: configurable sparsemem section size
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:48:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bCD11x64pJj5gSnsu5jsUqJyU6o+=J4K8oYAsHqz9ULqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f7499bd-8d48-945b-6d69-60685a02c8da@arm.com>

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:07 AM Anshuman Khandual
<anshuman.khandual@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On 04/24/2019 02:08 AM, Pavel Tatashin wrote:
> > sparsemem section size determines the maximum size and alignment that
> > is allowed to offline/online memory block. The bigger the size the less
> > the clutter in /sys/devices/system/memory/*. On the other hand, however,
> > there is less flexability in what granules of memory can be added and
> > removed.
>
> Is there any scenario where less than a 1GB needs to be added on arm64 ?

Yes, DAX hotplug loses 1G of memory without allowing smaller sections.
Machines on which we are going to be using this functionality have 8G
of System RAM, therefore losing 1G is a big problem.

For details about using scenario see this cover letter:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190421014429.31206-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com/

>
> >
> > Recently, it was enabled in Linux to hotadd persistent memory that
> > can be either real NV device, or reserved from regular System RAM
> > and has identity of devdax.
>
> devdax (even ZONE_DEVICE) support has not been enabled on arm64 yet.

Correct, I use your patches to enable ZONE_DEVICE, and  thus devdax on ARM64:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1554265806-11501-1-git-send-email-anshuman.khandual@arm.com/

>
> >
> > The problem is that because ARM64's section size is 1G, and devdax must
> > have 2M label section, the first 1G is always missed when device is
> > attached, because it is not 1G aligned.
>
> devdax has to be 2M aligned ? Does Linux enforce that right now ?

Unfortunately, there is no way around this. Part of the memory can be
reserved as persistent memory via device tree.
        memory@40000000 {
                device_type = "memory";
                reg = < 0x00000000 0x40000000
                        0x00000002 0x00000000 >;
        };

        pmem@1c0000000 {
                compatible = "pmem-region";
                reg = <0x00000001 0xc0000000
                       0x00000000 0x80000000>;
                volatile;
                numa-node-id = <0>;
        };

So, while pmem is section aligned, as it should be, the dax device is
going to be pmem start address + label size, which is 2M. The actual
DAX device starts at:
0x1c0000000 + 2M.

Because section size is 1G, the hotplug will able to add only memory
starting from
0x1c0000000 + 1G

> 27 and 28 do not even compile for ARM64_64_PAGES because of MAX_ORDER and
> SECTION_SIZE mismatch.

Can you please elaborate what configs are you using? I have no
problems compiling with 27 and 28 bit.

Thank you,
Pasha

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-24 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-23 20:38 [PATCH] arm64: configurable sparsemem section size Pavel Tatashin
2019-04-24  9:07 ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-04-24 19:48   ` Pavel Tatashin [this message]
2019-04-24 19:54     ` Pavel Tatashin
2019-04-24 20:24       ` Dan Williams
2019-04-24 20:33         ` Pavel Tatashin
2019-04-25  3:06     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-04-25 15:25 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-25 15:31   ` Will Deacon
2019-04-25 15:41     ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-25 17:57       ` Pavel Tatashin
2019-04-26  5:33         ` Michal Hocko

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