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[Luis R. Rodriguez]

David,

The compat [0] / compat-wireless [1] [2] projects have received quite
a bit of love of the years to the point we now have 3 subsystems
backported: Ethernet, Bluetooth and 802.11. Ozan Çağlayan, a Linux
Foundation Google Summer of Code student is folding in right now drm
driver support. At the request of the community, specifically those
part of the Linux Foundation driver working group [3], we are going to
be renaming the project to compat-drivers soon after drm is integrated
and will be housing documentation under the kernel.org infrastructure
[4] under this new name. It'll take some time for us to migrate the
documentation / releases but do not see major issues with that, it
will just take a bit of time but hope to have it done for the next
stable release based on the next kernel stable release. At this time
for patches we do have a Linux Foundation mailing list but have had
issues with it for a while now so we keep using linux-wireless for
patches. Given that our focus is to always prioritize upstream and
always try to work with solutions that ensure vendors are focusing on
upstream solutions and prioritizing upstream [5] I was hoping we can
get a mailing list set up on vger for the project, perhaps
backports@vger.kernel.org, so we don't flood the other mailing lists
with random kernel backport junk. Please let me know if this is
reasonable.

[0] https://github.com/mcgrof/compat
[1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/
[2] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[3] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/driver-backport/group
[4] https://backports.wiki.kernel.org
[5] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/#Additional_patches_to_stable_releases

  Luis

Re: Backports mailing list

[David Miller]

From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@frijolero.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:42:53 -0700

> I was hoping we can get a mailing list set up on vger for the
> project, perhaps backports@vger.kernel.org, so we don't flood the
> other mailing lists with random kernel backport junk. Please let me
> know if this is reasonable.

It would have been so much easier if you simply just asked for this
instead of giving me a life story of all of these projects to read.

backports@vger.kernel.org has been created

Re: Backports mailing list

[Sedat Dilek]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
<mcgrof@frijolero.org> wrote:
> David,
>
> The compat [0] / compat-wireless [1] [2] projects have received quite
> a bit of love of the years to the point we now have 3 subsystems
> backported: Ethernet, Bluetooth and 802.11. Ozan Çağlayan, a Linux
> Foundation Google Summer of Code student is folding in right now drm
> driver support. At the request of the community, specifically those
> part of the Linux Foundation driver working group [3], we are going to
> be renaming the project to compat-drivers soon after drm is integrated
> and will be housing documentation under the kernel.org infrastructure
> [4] under this new name. It'll take some time for us to migrate the
> documentation / releases but do not see major issues with that, it
> will just take a bit of time but hope to have it done for the next
> stable release based on the next kernel stable release. At this time
> for patches we do have a Linux Foundation mailing list but have had
> issues with it for a while now so we keep using linux-wireless for
> patches. Given that our focus is to always prioritize upstream and
> always try to work with solutions that ensure vendors are focusing on
> upstream solutions and prioritizing upstream [5] I was hoping we can
> get a mailing list set up on vger for the project, perhaps
> backports@vger.kernel.org, so we don't flood the other mailing lists
> with random kernel backport junk. Please let me know if this is
> reasonable.
>
> [0] https://github.com/mcgrof/compat
> [1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/
> [2] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
> [3] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/driver-backport/group
> [4] https://backports.wiki.kernel.org
> [5] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/#Additional_patches_to_stable_releases
>

Hi,

I am wondering why people are not consistent in naming - here again a
good example.

The workgroup at Linux Foundation is called "driver-backport".
You (Luis) are talking about a rename to "compat-drivers".
And then the ML and wiki have the name "backports".

So "backports" is for me is a bit confusing!
That reminds me when I first read about "AAArgh64!!!" stuff which was
in the end called mips64 to keep consistency to other existing arches.

So, just to fool the world a bit more:
What about "linux-backports" or why didn't you keep the "driver-backport" name?

Just my 0.02EUR.

Regards,
- Sedat -

>   Luis
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Re: Backports mailing list

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez
> <mcgrof@frijolero.org> wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> The compat [0] / compat-wireless [1] [2] projects have received quite
>> a bit of love of the years to the point we now have 3 subsystems
>> backported: Ethernet, Bluetooth and 802.11. Ozan Çağlayan, a Linux
>> Foundation Google Summer of Code student is folding in right now drm
>> driver support. At the request of the community, specifically those
>> part of the Linux Foundation driver working group [3], we are going to
>> be renaming the project to compat-drivers soon after drm is integrated
>> and will be housing documentation under the kernel.org infrastructure
>> [4] under this new name. It'll take some time for us to migrate the
>> documentation / releases but do not see major issues with that, it
>> will just take a bit of time but hope to have it done for the next
>> stable release based on the next kernel stable release. At this time
>> for patches we do have a Linux Foundation mailing list but have had
>> issues with it for a while now so we keep using linux-wireless for
>> patches. Given that our focus is to always prioritize upstream and
>> always try to work with solutions that ensure vendors are focusing on
>> upstream solutions and prioritizing upstream [5] I was hoping we can
>> get a mailing list set up on vger for the project, perhaps
>> backports@vger.kernel.org, so we don't flood the other mailing lists
>> with random kernel backport junk. Please let me know if this is
>> reasonable.
>>
>> [0] https://github.com/mcgrof/compat
>> [1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/
>> [2] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
>> [3] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/driver-backport/group
>> [4] https://backports.wiki.kernel.org
>> [5] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/#Additional_patches_to_stable_releases
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am wondering why people are not consistent in naming - here again a
> good example.
>
> The workgroup at Linux Foundation is called "driver-backport".
> You (Luis) are talking about a rename to "compat-drivers".
> And then the ML and wiki have the name "backports".
>
> So "backports" is for me is a bit confusing!
> That reminds me when I first read about "AAArgh64!!!" stuff which was
> in the end called mips64 to keep consistency to other existing arches.
>
> So, just to fool the world a bit more:
> What about "linux-backports" or why didn't you keep the "driver-backport" name?
>
> Just my 0.02EUR.

To start off with the compat-drivers name came as a recommendation
from the workgroup and it follows the old name evolution:
compat-wireless --> compat-drivers. The reason for not having a long
similar alias for the mailing list is vger.kernel.org already implies
Linux kernel so backports is nice and short. Another reason is that
the backporting project already has 2 target source code projects:

  * compat - a shared module
  * compat-drivers - the drivers we pull and backport

When folks send patches they can prepend their patches with the
project name as a prefix to the patch.

For more details please see:

http://www.do-not-panic.com/2012/08/automatically-backporting-linux-kernel.html
http://www.do-not-panic.com/2012/08/optimizing-backporting-collateral.html

  Luis

Re: Backports mailing list

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@frijolero.org> wrote:
> For more details please see:
>
> http://www.do-not-panic.com/2012/08/automatically-backporting-linux-kernel.html
> http://www.do-not-panic.com/2012/08/optimizing-backporting-collateral.html
>
>   Luis

All that said, please use the shiny new mailing list:
backports@vger.kernel.org  for  patches for compat / compat-drivers.

  Luis

Re: Backports mailing list

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@frijolero.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@frijolero.org> wrote:
>> For more details please see:
>>
>> http://www.do-not-panic.com/2012/08/automatically-backporting-linux-kernel.html
>> http://www.do-not-panic.com/2012/08/optimizing-backporting-collateral.html
>>
>>   Luis
>
> All that said, please use the shiny new mailing list:
> backports@vger.kernel.org  for  patches for compat / compat-drivers.

Furthermore, the project git tree has changed to be renamed to
compat-drivers as well now, and the new wiki page should be used
moving forward:

https://backports.wiki.kernel.org
git://github.com/mcgrof/compat-drivers.git

  Luis