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From: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 19:16:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeHK+wTcH+2hgm_BTkLLdn1GkjBtkhQ=vPWZCncJ6KenqgKpg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180703173608.GF27243@arm.com>

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> OK, anecdotal experience works for me.  But this is all stuff that
> should have been in the changelog from day zero, please.  It describes
> the reason for the patchset's existence!

I will add all those points to the cover letter in v5.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> Hmm, but elsewhere in this thread, Evgenii is motivating the need for this
> patch set precisely because the lower overhead means it's suitable for
> "near-production" use. So I don't think writing this off as a debugging
> feature is the right approach, and we instead need to put effort into
> analysing the impact of address tags on the kernel as a whole. Playing
> whack-a-mole with subtle tag issues sounds like the worst possible outcome
> for the long-term.

I don't see a way to find cases where pointer tags would matter
statically, so I've implemented the dynamic approach that I mentioned
above. I've instrumented all pointer comparisons/subtractions in an
LLVM compiler pass and used a kernel module that would print a bug
report whenever two pointers with different tags are being
compared/subtracted (ignoring comparisons with NULL pointers and with
pointers obtained by casting an error code to a pointer type). Then I
tried booting the kernel in QEMU and on an Odroid C2 board and I ran
syzkaller overnight.

This yielded the following results.

======

The two places that look interesting are:

is_vmalloc_addr in include/linux/mm.h (already mentioned by Catalin)
is_kernel_rodata in mm/util.c

Here we compare a pointer with some fixed untagged values to make sure
that the pointer lies in a particular part of the kernel address
space. Since KWHASAN doesn't add tags to pointers that belong to
rodata or vmalloc regions, this should work as is. To make sure I've
added debug checks to those two functions that check that the result
doesn't change whether we operate on pointers with or without
untagging.

======

A few other cases that don't look that interesting:

Comparing pointers to achieve unique sorting order of pointee objects
(e.g. sorting locks addresses before performing a double lock):

tty_ldisc_lock_pair_timeout in drivers/tty/tty_ldisc.c
pipe_double_lock in fs/pipe.c
unix_state_double_lock in net/unix/af_unix.c
lock_two_nondirectories in fs/inode.c
mutex_lock_double in kernel/events/core.c

ep_cmp_ffd in fs/eventpoll.c
fsnotify_compare_groups fs/notify/mark.c

Nothing needs to be done here, since the tags embedded into pointers
don't change, so the sorting order would still be unique.

Check that a pointer belongs to some particular allocation:

is_sibling_entry lib/radix-tree.c
object_is_on_stack in include/linux/sched/task_stack.h

Nothing needs to be here either, since two pointers can only belong to
the same allocation if they have the same tag.

======

Will, Catalin, WDYT?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-18 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-26 13:15 [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] khwasan, mm: change kasan hooks signatures Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] khwasan: move common kasan and khwasan code to common.c Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] khwasan: add CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC and CONFIG_KASAN_HW Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] khwasan, arm64: adjust shadow size for CONFIG_KASAN_HW Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] khwasan: initialize shadow to 0xff Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] khwasan, arm64: untag virt address in __kimg_to_phys and _virt_addr_is_linear Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] khwasan: add tag related helper functions Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] khwasan, arm64: fix up fault handling logic Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] khwasan, arm64: enable top byte ignore for the kernel Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] khwasan, mm: perform untagged pointers comparison in krealloc Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] khwasan: split out kasan_report.c from report.c Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] khwasan: add bug reporting routines Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation Andrey Konovalov
2018-07-25 13:44   ` Vincenzo Frascino@Foss
2018-07-31 13:05     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-07-31 14:50       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 15:03         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 15:38           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-31 16:03             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 16:04           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 16:08             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 16:18               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 15:21         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] khwasan, arm64: add brk handler for inline instrumentation Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] khwasan, mm, arm64: tag non slab memory allocated via pagealloc Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] khwasan: update kasan documentation Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] kasan: add SPDX-License-Identifier mark to source files Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-27 23:08 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer Andrew Morton
2018-06-28  0:04   ` Kostya Serebryany
     [not found]     ` <CAEZpscCcP6=O_OCqSwW8Y6u9Ee99SzWN+hRcgpP2tK=OEBFnNw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-28  1:11       ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-28 18:26         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-28  7:01     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-07-02 20:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-02 23:39       ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-06-28 18:29   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-28 19:40     ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-29 12:45       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-29 13:01         ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-29 14:40           ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-30  2:41         ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-02 19:16           ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-07-02 19:21             ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-02 20:22               ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-07-02 20:30                 ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-28 10:51 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-28 18:56   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-29 10:14     ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-29 11:04     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-29 11:26       ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2018-06-29 13:18         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-29 13:42         ` Dan Carpenter
2018-06-29 11:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2018-06-29 11:07     ` Will Deacon
2018-06-29 16:36       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-07-03 17:36         ` Will Deacon
2018-07-18 17:16           ` Andrey Konovalov [this message]
2018-07-31 13:22             ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-08-01 16:35               ` Will Deacon
2018-08-01 16:52                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-02 11:10                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-02 11:36                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-02 13:52                       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-02 14:11                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-08-03  9:23                   ` Will Deacon
2018-08-03  9:42                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-08 16:27                       ` Will Deacon
2018-08-08 16:53                         ` Dmitry Vyukov

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