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From: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:18:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e73efbea-9f23-9d1f-bd1d-add0c0fe4710@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+aUs0YMTaQx4x9QiQsMjFNZ5gUFNuMkG_hneDPTb3Nu=Q@mail.gmail.com>



On 07/31/2018 07:08 PM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Andrey Ryabinin
> <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> @@ -325,18 +341,41 @@ void kasan_init_slab_obj(struct kmem_cache *cache,
>>>>>>> const void *object)
>>>>>>>     void *kasan_slab_alloc(struct kmem_cache *cache, void *object, gfp_t
>>>>>>> flags)
>>>>>>>   {
>>>>>>> -       return kasan_kmalloc(cache, object, cache->object_size, flags);
>>>>>>> +       object = kasan_kmalloc(cache, object, cache->object_size, flags);
>>>>>>> +       if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_HW) && unlikely(cache->ctor)) {
>>>>>>> +               /*
>>>>>>> +                * Cache constructor might use object's pointer value to
>>>>>>> +                * initialize some of its fields.
>>>>>>> +                */
>>>>>>> +               cache->ctor(object);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This seams breaking the kmem_cache_create() contract: "The @ctor is run when
>>>>>> new pages are allocated by the cache."
>>>>>> (https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v3.7/source/mm/slab_common.c#L83)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since there might be preexisting code relying on it, this could lead to
>>>>>> global side effects. Did you verify that this is not the case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another concern is performance related if we consider this solution suitable
>>>>>> for "near-production", since with the current implementation you call the
>>>>>> ctor (where present) on an object multiple times and this ends up memsetting
>>>>>> and repopulating the memory every time (i.e. inode.c: inode_init_once). Do
>>>>>> you know what is the performance impact?
>>>>>
>>>>> We can assign tags to objects with constructors when a slab is
>>>>> allocated and call constructors once as usual. The downside is that
>>>>> such object would always have the same tag when it is reallocated, so
>>>>> we won't catch use-after-frees.
>>>>
>>>> Actually you should do this for SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU slabs. Usually they are with ->ctors but there
>>>> are few without constructors.
>>>> We can't reinitialize or even retag them. The latter will definitely cause false-positive use-after-free reports.
>>>
>>> Somewhat offtopic, but I can't understand how SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
>>> slabs can be useful without ctors or at least memset(0). Objects in
>>> such slabs need to be type-stable, but I can't understand how it's
>>> possible to establish type stability without a ctor... Are these bugs?
>>
>> Yeah, I puzzled by this too. However, I think it's hard but possible to make it work, at least in theory.
>> There must be an initializer, which consists of two parts:
>> a) initilize objects fields
>> b) expose object to the world (add it to list or something like that)
>>
>> (a) part must somehow to be ok to race with another cpu which might already use the object.
>> (b) part must must use e.g. barriers to make sure that racy users will see previously inilized fields.
>> Racy users must have parring barrier of course.
>>
>> But it sound fishy, and very easy to fuck up.
> 
> 
> Agree on both fronts: theoretically possible but easy to fuck up. Even
> if it works, complexity of the code should be brain damaging and there
> are unlikely good reasons to just not be more explicit and use a ctor.
> 
> 
>> I won't be surprised if every single one SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU user
>> without ->ctor is bogus. It certainly would be better to convert those to use ->ctor.
> 
> I have another hypothesis: they are not bogus, just don't need
> SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU :)
> 

I'd call this a bug too.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-31 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-26 13:15 [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] khwasan, mm: change kasan hooks signatures Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] khwasan: move common kasan and khwasan code to common.c Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] khwasan: add CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC and CONFIG_KASAN_HW Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] khwasan, arm64: adjust shadow size for CONFIG_KASAN_HW Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] khwasan: initialize shadow to 0xff Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] khwasan, arm64: untag virt address in __kimg_to_phys and _virt_addr_is_linear Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] khwasan: add tag related helper functions Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] khwasan, arm64: fix up fault handling logic Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] khwasan, arm64: enable top byte ignore for the kernel Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] khwasan, mm: perform untagged pointers comparison in krealloc Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] khwasan: split out kasan_report.c from report.c Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] khwasan: add bug reporting routines Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] khwasan: add hooks implementation Andrey Konovalov
2018-07-25 13:44   ` Vincenzo Frascino@Foss
2018-07-31 13:05     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-07-31 14:50       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 15:03         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 15:38           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-31 16:03             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 16:04           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-07-31 16:08             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-07-31 16:18               ` Andrey Ryabinin [this message]
2018-07-31 15:21         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] khwasan, arm64: add brk handler for inline instrumentation Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] khwasan, mm, arm64: tag non slab memory allocated via pagealloc Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] khwasan: update kasan documentation Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-26 13:15 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] kasan: add SPDX-License-Identifier mark to source files Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-27 23:08 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer Andrew Morton
2018-06-28  0:04   ` Kostya Serebryany
     [not found]     ` <CAEZpscCcP6=O_OCqSwW8Y6u9Ee99SzWN+hRcgpP2tK=OEBFnNw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-28  1:11       ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-28 18:26         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-28  7:01     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-07-02 20:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-02 23:39       ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-06-28 18:29   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-28 19:40     ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-29 12:45       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-29 13:01         ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-29 14:40           ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-30  2:41         ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-02 19:16           ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-07-02 19:21             ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-02 20:22               ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-07-02 20:30                 ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-28 10:51 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-28 18:56   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-29 10:14     ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-29 11:04     ` Dave Martin
2018-06-29 11:26       ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2018-06-29 13:18         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-06-29 13:42         ` Dan Carpenter
2018-06-29 11:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2018-06-29 11:07     ` Will Deacon
2018-06-29 16:36       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-07-03 17:36         ` Will Deacon
2018-07-18 17:16           ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-07-31 13:22             ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-08-01 16:35               ` Will Deacon
2018-08-01 16:52                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-02 11:10                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-02 11:36                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-02 13:52                       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-02 14:11                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-08-03  9:23                   ` Will Deacon
2018-08-03  9:42                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-08 16:27                       ` Will Deacon
2018-08-08 16:53                         ` Dmitry Vyukov

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