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From: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
	peterz@infraded.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/4] tracing/probe: Add PERF_EVENT_IOC_QUERY_PROBE ioctl
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:48:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEf4BzadWn+fWuxO9E0snn04BfFWXrWsakse2nHrTWSDG_rMmQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7232f649-78f8-4a2d-a3df-0ce9293f9de8@www.fastmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:39 PM Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019, at 8:57 AM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:47 PM Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's useful to know [uk]probe's nmissed and nhit stats. For example with
> > > tracing tools, it's important to know when events may have been lost.
> > > debugfs currently exposes a control file to get this information, but
> > > it is not compatible with probes registered with the perf API.
> > >
> > > While bpf programs may be able to manually count nhit, there is no way
> > > to gather nmissed. In other words, it is currently not possible to
> > > retrieve information about FD-based probes.
> > >
> > > This patch adds a new ioctl that lets users query nmissed (as well as
> > > nhit for completeness). We currently only add support for [uk]probes
> > > but leave the possibility open for other probes like tracepoint.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
> > > ---
> > >  include/linux/trace_events.h    | 12 ++++++++++++
> > >  include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  kernel/events/core.c            | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  kernel/trace/trace_kprobe.c     | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  kernel/trace/trace_uprobe.c     | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  5 files changed, 97 insertions(+)
> > >
> [...]
> > > +       struct trace_kprobe *tk = (struct trace_kprobe *)call->data;
> > > +       u64 nmissed, nhit;
> > > +
> > > +       if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > > +               return -EPERM;
> > > +       if (copy_from_user(&query, uquery, sizeof(query)))

Not sure why we are reading that struct in, if we never use that? With
size as a first argument (see below about compatiblity), I'd also read
just first 4 or 8 bytes only.

> >
> > what about forward/backward compatibility? Didn't you have a size
> > field for perf_event_query_probe?
>
> I initially did, yes. But after thinking about it more, I'm not convinced it
> is necessary. It seems the last change to the debugfs counterpart was in
> the initial comit cd7e7bd5e4, ~10 years ago. I cannot think of any other
> information that would be useful off the top of my head, so I figured it'd
> be best if we didn't make more complicated something that doesn't seem
> likely to change. If we really needed something else, I figured adding
> another ioctl is pretty cheap.
>
> If you (or anyone) feels strongly about adding it back, I can make it a
> u64 so there's no holes.

Debugfs is not stable API, so I guess that matters less. I think we
should support this forward/backward compatibility mechanism that
kernel implements for a lot of other stable APIs.

>
> >
> > > +               return -EFAULT;
> > > +
> > > +       nhit = trace_kprobe_nhit(tk);
> > > +       nmissed = tk->rp.kp.nmissed;
> > > +
> > > +       if (put_user(nmissed, &uquery->nmissed) ||
> > > +           put_user(nhit, &uquery->nhit))
> >
> > Wouldn't it be nicer to just do one user put for entire struct (or at
> > least relevant part of it with backward/forward compatibility?).
>
> Not sure how that didn't occur to me. Thanks.

Once you add back size field for compatibility, doing it with one call
will make it easier to write only first N requested bytes.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-13 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-09 21:46 [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/4] tracing/probe: Add PERF_EVENT_IOC_QUERY_PROBE Daniel Xu
2019-08-09 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/4] tracing/probe: Add PERF_EVENT_IOC_QUERY_PROBE ioctl Daniel Xu
2019-08-12 15:56   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2019-08-13  0:38     ` Daniel Xu
2019-08-13 19:48       ` Andrii Nakryiko [this message]
2019-08-13 21:47   ` Song Liu
2019-08-13 23:07     ` Daniel Xu
2019-08-09 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 2/4] libbpf: Add helpers to extract perf fd from bpf_link Daniel Xu
2019-08-12 16:02   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2019-08-09 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 3/4] tracing/probe: Sync perf_event.h to tools Daniel Xu
2019-08-09 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 4/4] tracing/probe: Add self test for PERF_EVENT_IOC_QUERY_PROBE Daniel Xu
2019-08-12 17:46   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2019-08-09 21:50 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/4] tracing/probe: Add PERF_EVENT_IOC_QUERY_PROBE Daniel Xu

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