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From: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
To: Janne Karhunen <janne.karhunen@gmail.com>
Cc: keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/6] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:53:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFA6WYOKcOzSwakHhgshZcebD8ZBMSi7xQdjWYFS79=Xc+odOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE=Ncrb23q++z8R8UMbjDE2epEq4YVcNGzrRD31eH3JAooYejg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 16:33, Janne Karhunen <janne.karhunen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:26 PM Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> > > Interesting, I wrote something similar and posted it to the lists a while back:
> > > https://github.com/jkrh/linux/commit/d77ea03afedcb5fd42234cd834da8f8a0809f6a6
> > >
> > > Since there are no generic 'TEEs' available,
> >
> > There is already a generic TEE interface driver available in kernel.
> > Have a look here: "Documentation/tee.txt".
>
> I guess my wording was wrong, tried to say that physical TEEs in the
> wild vary massively hardware wise. Generalizing these things is rough.
>

There are already well defined GlobalPlatform Standards to generalize
the TEE interface. One of them is GlobalPlatform TEE Client API [1]
which provides the basis for this TEE interface.

>
> > > I implemented the same
> > > thing as a generic protocol translator. The shared memory binding for
> > > instance already assumes fair amount about the TEE and how that is
> > > physically present in the system. Besides, the help from usage of shm
> > > is pretty limited due to the size of the keydata.
> > >
> >
> > If you look at patch #1 and #2, they add support to register kernel
> > memory buffer (keydata buffer in this case) with TEE to operate on. So
> > there isn't any limitation due to the size of the keydata.
>
> Ah, didn't mean that. Meant that the keydata is typically pretty small
> in size, so there is limited benefit from passing that in via shm if
> that complicates anything.
>

Ah, ok. Do you think of any better approach rather than to use SHM?

[1] https://globalplatform.org/specs-library/tee-client-api-specification/

-Sumit

>
> --
> Janne

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-31 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-30 12:23 [RFC v2 0/6] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 1/6] tee: optee: allow kernel pages to register as shm Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 2/6] tee: enable support to register kernel memory Sumit Garg
2019-08-08 22:26   ` [Tee-dev] " Stuart Yoder
2019-08-09  5:36     ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 3/6] tee: add private login method for kernel clients Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 4/6] KEYS: trusted: Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 5/6] doc: keys: Document usage of " Sumit Garg
2019-07-30 12:23 ` [RFC v2 6/6] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for " Sumit Garg
2019-07-31  7:11 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Introduce TEE based Trusted Keys support Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 10:21   ` Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 13:58     ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01  6:21       ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01  7:40         ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01  7:59           ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01 10:00             ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01 10:40               ` Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 10:26   ` Sumit Garg
2019-07-31 11:02     ` Janne Karhunen
2019-07-31 14:23       ` Sumit Garg [this message]
2019-08-01  6:36         ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01  6:50           ` [Tee-dev] " Rouven Czerwinski
2019-08-01  7:30             ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01  7:58               ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-01  8:30                 ` Janne Karhunen
2019-08-01 10:27                   ` Sumit Garg
2019-08-04 20:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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