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* Adding LICENSES folder for REUSE
@ 2017-11-11 20:56 Charlemagne Lasse
  2017-11-11 21:21 ` Jonas Oberg
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Charlemagne Lasse @ 2017-11-11 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman, carmenbianca, Jonas Oberg, Masahiro Yamada

Hi,

the linux kernel is a GPL-2.0 project but is build based on files using
all kinds of different licenses. It would be really nice when these
licenses could be correctly referenced as described in the
https://reuse.software/practices/ from the FSF.

Since some people started to add the SPDX headers to some files, it
might now be the right time to ask to get a LICENSES folder which will
contain the separate licenses. According to the currently existing
SPDX-License-Identifier, this should be at least:

- GPL-1.0
- GPL-2.0
- BSD-2-Clause
- BSD-3-Clause
- MIT
- MPL-1.1
- LGPL-2.0
- LGPL-2.1

I personally don't understand why BSD-2-Clause or MIT needs to have the
copyright file stored with the copyright holder while GPL-2.0 doesn't
need that. Seems to be quite wasteful and useless in a project like the
Linux kernel. Especially when there are multiple copyright holders - and
there are different combination in each file. Maybe the FSFE can give us
some insights here.

Here just two example files:

- https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/dfs.c?id=b39545684a90ef3374abc0969d64c7bc540d128d
- https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ar9580_1p0_initvals.h?id=b39545684a90ef3374abc0969d64c7bc540d128d

It would also be interesting to know from the FSFE how dual license
should be handled in by the License-Filename tag.


Thanks,
Charlemagne Lasse

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* Re: Adding LICENSES folder for REUSE
  2017-11-11 20:56 Adding LICENSES folder for REUSE Charlemagne Lasse
@ 2017-11-11 21:21 ` Jonas Oberg
  2017-11-11 22:29   ` Charlemagne Lasse
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jonas Oberg @ 2017-11-11 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Charlemagne Lasse
  Cc: linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, carmenbianca, Masahiro Yamada

Hi Charlemagne,

> Since some people started to add the SPDX headers to some files, it
> might now be the right time to ask to get a LICENSES folder which will
> contain the separate licenses.

I wouldn't do that now. Adding SPDX license identifiers is in most cases
quite sufficient and something which I would encourage first.

What you mention about the LICENSES/ folder and the License-Filename 
tag (which can be repeated) is an addition which is a bit more specific,
especially for BSD licenses where the SPDX license identifier alone does
not convey information about the specific "attribution requirement" of
each licensor.

Most often though, as you find the BSD licenses in the source code headers,
we wouldn't want the license text separated from them, and it would be
contrary to the REUSE principles to do so.

So for now, I would recommend to focus on the SPDX license identifiers and
then work out the other details later.


-- 
Jonas Öberg
Executive Director

FSFE e.V. - keeping the power of technology in your hands. Your
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* Re: Adding LICENSES folder for REUSE
  2017-11-11 21:21 ` Jonas Oberg
@ 2017-11-11 22:29   ` Charlemagne Lasse
  2017-11-12 13:04     ` Carmen Bianca Bakker
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Charlemagne Lasse @ 2017-11-11 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonas Oberg
  Cc: linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, carmenbianca, Masahiro Yamada

Hi,

2017-11-11 22:21 GMT+01:00 Jonas Oberg <jonas@fsfe.org>:
> I wouldn't do that now. Adding SPDX license identifiers is in most cases
> quite sufficient and something which I would encourage first.
>
> What you mention about the LICENSES/ folder and the License-Filename
> tag (which can be repeated) is an addition which is a bit more specific,
> especially for BSD licenses where the SPDX license identifier alone does
> not convey information about the specific "attribution requirement" of
> each licensor.
>
> Most often though, as you find the BSD licenses in the source code headers,
> we wouldn't want the license text separated from them, and it would be
> contrary to the REUSE principles to do so.

Thank you for the fast reply. Just as summary:

1. SPDX license identifier first
2. Full BSD/MIT/ISC license in source files is sufficient and don't
   require License-Filename
3. verbatim licenses which are not in source files (GPL, LGPL, MPL, ...)
   should be in LICENSES/
4. License-Filename tag can be added later and multiple are allowed per
   file

If this understanding is correct then I would still propose that the
LICENSES folder is prepared with the previously identified long licenses
(which are currently not stored completely in the source files):

mkdir LICENSES
curl -o LICENSES/GPL-1.0.txt https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-1.0.txt
curl -o LICENSES/GPL-2.0.txt https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.txt
curl -o LICENSES/MPL-1.1.txt
https://www.mozilla.org/media/MPL/1.1/index.0c5913925d40.txt
curl -o LICENSES/LGPL-2.0.txt https://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-2.0.txt
curl -o LICENSES/LGPL-2.1.txt https://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-2.1.txt

$EDITOR COPYING
# change file to reference LICENSES/GPL-2.0.txt ?

git add LICENSES COPYING
git commit

Thanks,
Charlemagne Lasse

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* Re: Adding LICENSES folder for REUSE
  2017-11-11 22:29   ` Charlemagne Lasse
@ 2017-11-12 13:04     ` Carmen Bianca Bakker
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Carmen Bianca Bakker @ 2017-11-12 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Charlemagne Lasse, Jonas Oberg
  Cc: linux-kernel, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Masahiro Yamada

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Hello Charlemagne,

Charlemagne Lasse schreef op za 11-11-2017 om 23:29 [+0100]:
> 1. SPDX license identifier first
> 2. Full BSD/MIT/ISC license in source files is sufficient and don't
>    require License-Filename
> 3. verbatim licenses which are not in source files (GPL, LGPL, MPL, ...)
>    should be in LICENSES/
> 4. License-Filename tag can be added later and multiple are allowed per
>    file

Yes, that is all quite correct :)  The REUSE recommendations are
threefold, roughly:

1. Include verbatim licence text in repository.

2. Add licence information about each file.

3. (Optional-ish) Create an SPDX bill of materials that can be
   auto-generated.

We also have some recommendations about _how_ you might go about doing
this, e.g., putting the licences in a LICENSES folder or putting certain
headers in code files, but the exact implementation is eventually up to
the project itself.

`SPDX-License-Identifier` and `License-Filename` do roughly the same
thing, apart from the difference which Jonas mentioned.  I know that
some kernel code files already use the SPDX-License-Identifier tag, and
it seems to me that just satisfying that tag would be sufficient to
start with.

> If this understanding is correct then I would still propose that the
> LICENSES folder is prepared with the previously identified long licenses
> (which are currently not stored completely in the source files):

If the kernel project did only this and stopped there, that would take
you half the way there already.  Just having (and distributing) the
licence texts verbatim is reasonably important as far as legal
responsibilities go.

Yours sincerely,

-- 
Carmen Bianca Bakker
Technical Intern
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V.

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