* Re: + posix_timers-remove-dead-task-timer-expiry-caching.patch added to -mm tree
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@ 2013-04-17 1:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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From: Frederic Weisbecker @ 2013-04-17 1:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: akpm; +Cc: mm-commits, a.p.zijlstra, mingo, oleg, sgruszka, tglx, LKML
2013/4/9 <akpm@linux-foundation.org>:
>
> The patch titled
> Subject: posix_timers: Remove dead task timer expiry caching
> has been added to the -mm tree. Its filename is
> posix_timers-remove-dead-task-timer-expiry-caching.patch
>
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> From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> Subject: posix_timers: Remove dead task timer expiry caching
>
> When reading a timer sample, posix_cpu_timer_get() and
> posix_cpu_timer_schedule() both perform a caching of the timer expiry time
> by converting its value from absolute to relative if the task has exited.
>
> The reason for this caching is not clear though, it could be:
>
> 1) For performance reasons: no need to calculate the delta after the
> task has died, its cputime won't change anymore. We can thus avoid
> some locking (sighand, tasklist_lock, rq->lock for task_delta_exec(),
> ...), and various operations to calculate the sample...
>
> 2) To keep the remaining delta for the timer available after the task
> has died. When it gets reaped, its sighand disappears, so accessing
> the process wide cputime through tsk->signal is probably not safe.
>
> Now, is the first reason really worth it? I have no idea if it is a case
> we really want to optimize.
>
> Considering the second reason, we return a disarmed zero'ed timer when
> tsk->sighand == NULL. So if this is an assumed reason, it's broken. And
> this case only concern process wide timers that have their group leader
> reaped. The posix cpu timer shouldn't even be available anymore at that
> time. Unless the group leader changed since we called
> posix_cpu_timer_create() after an exec?
>
> Anyway for now I'm sending this as an RFC because there may well be subtle
> things I left behind.
>
> Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> Cc: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
So this very patch probably shouldn't go to 3.10, I sent it early in
case I could get some hindsight from reviewers.
Anyway, let me some time to think more about it and all the possible
implications against exit, de_thread, etc... then I'll resend if that
sounds palatable.
Thanks.
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