From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
John Wood <john.wood@gmx.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/6] security/fbfam: Detect a fork brute force attack
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 02:01:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez2fP7yupg6Th+Hg0tL3o06p2PR1HtQcvy4Ro+Q5T2Nfkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202009101634.52ED6751AD@keescook>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:49 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 01:21:06PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > From: John Wood <john.wood@gmx.com>
> >
> > To detect a fork brute force attack it is necessary to compute the
> > crashing rate of the application. This calculation is performed in each
> > fatal fail of a task, or in other words, when a core dump is triggered.
> > If this rate shows that the application is crashing quickly, there is a
> > clear signal that an attack is happening.
> >
> > Since the crashing rate is computed in milliseconds per fault, if this
> > rate goes under a certain threshold a warning is triggered.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: John Wood <john.wood@gmx.com>
> > ---
> > fs/coredump.c | 2 ++
> > include/fbfam/fbfam.h | 2 ++
> > security/fbfam/fbfam.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 3 files changed, 43 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/coredump.c b/fs/coredump.c
> > index 76e7c10edfc0..d4ba4e1828d5 100644
> > --- a/fs/coredump.c
> > +++ b/fs/coredump.c
> > @@ -51,6 +51,7 @@
> > #include "internal.h"
> >
> > #include <trace/events/sched.h>
> > +#include <fbfam/fbfam.h>
> >
> > int core_uses_pid;
> > unsigned int core_pipe_limit;
> > @@ -825,6 +826,7 @@ void do_coredump(const kernel_siginfo_t *siginfo)
> > fail_creds:
> > put_cred(cred);
> > fail:
> > + fbfam_handle_attack(siginfo->si_signo);
>
> I don't think this is the right place for detecting a crash -- isn't
> this only for the "dumping core" condition? In other words, don't you
> want to do this in get_signal()'s "fatal" block? (i.e. very close to the
> do_coredump, but without the "should I dump?" check?)
>
> Hmm, but maybe I'm wrong? It looks like you're looking at noticing the
> process taking a signal from SIG_KERNEL_COREDUMP_MASK ?
>
> (Better yet: what are fatal conditions that do NOT match
> SIG_KERNEL_COREDUMP_MASK, and should those be covered?)
>
> Regardless, *this* looks like the only place without an LSM hook. And it
> doesn't seem unreasonable to add one here. I assume it would probably
> just take the siginfo pointer, which is also what you're checking.
Good point, making this an LSM might be a good idea.
> e.g. for include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h:
>
> LSM_HOOK(int, 0, task_coredump, const kernel_siginfo_t *siginfo);
I guess it should probably be an LSM_RET_VOID hook? And since, as you
said, it's not really semantically about core dumping, maybe it should
be named task_fatal_signal or something like that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-11 0:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-10 20:21 [RESEND][RFC PATCH 0/6] Fork brute force attack mitigation (fbfam) Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] security/fbfam: Add a Kconfig to enable the fbfam feature Kees Cook
2020-09-10 21:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-17 17:32 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 23:18 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-17 18:40 ` John Wood
2020-09-17 22:05 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-18 14:50 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] security/fbfam: Add the api to manage statistics Kees Cook
2020-09-10 23:23 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] security/fbfam: Use " Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:27 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:33 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-29 23:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-29 23:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-10-03 9:52 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] security/fbfam: Add a new sysctl to control the crashing rate threshold Kees Cook
2020-09-10 23:14 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-13 14:33 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] security/fbfam: Detect a fork brute force attack Kees Cook
2020-09-10 21:10 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-13 17:54 ` John Wood
2020-09-14 19:42 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-15 18:44 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 23:49 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11 0:01 ` Jann Horn [this message]
2020-09-13 16:56 ` John Wood
2020-09-14 19:39 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-15 17:36 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] security/fbfam: Mitigate " Kees Cook
2020-09-10 20:55 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11 0:20 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-18 16:02 ` John Wood
2020-09-18 21:35 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-19 8:01 ` John Wood
2020-09-10 20:39 ` [RESEND][RFC PATCH 0/6] Fork brute force attack mitigation (fbfam) Jann Horn
2020-09-10 23:58 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-11 14:48 ` John Wood
2020-09-12 7:55 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-12 12:24 ` John Wood
2020-09-12 0:03 ` James Morris
2020-09-12 7:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-12 9:36 ` John Wood
2020-09-12 14:47 ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-12 20:48 ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-13 7:24 ` John Wood
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