From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: "Maxime Bizon" <mbizon@freebox.fr>,
"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"Oleksandr Natalenko" <oleksandr@natalenko.name>,
"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
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"Kalle Valo" <kvalo@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:21:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whpKDePfUoKmvJhSNbWcHFY5e7Uq5qEypD=R14+66DNvQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1829f4a-d916-c486-ac49-2c6dff77521a@arm.com>
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 12:14 PM Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Note "between the DMA transfers", and not "during the DMA transfers".
> The fundamental assumption of the streaming API is that only one thing
> is ever accessing the mapping at any given time, which is what the whole
> notion of ownership is about.
Well, but that ignores reality.
Any documentation that ignores the "CPU will want to see the
intermediate state" is by definition garbage, because that is clearly
a simple fact.
We don't write documentation for fantasy.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-25 19:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-23 7:19 [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-23 7:28 ` Kalle Valo
2022-03-23 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-23 19:06 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-23 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-23 20:54 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 5:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 10:25 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-24 11:05 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 14:27 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-24 16:29 ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-24 16:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 16:52 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 17:07 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-24 19:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-24 21:14 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 10:25 ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-25 11:27 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 23:38 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-26 16:05 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-26 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-26 22:38 ` David Laight
2022-03-26 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 16:25 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 16:45 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 18:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:14 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-03-25 19:26 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:35 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 20:37 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 21:13 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 21:40 ` David Laight
2022-03-25 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 22:41 ` David Laight
2022-03-27 3:15 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28 9:48 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28 9:50 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28 9:57 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-27 3:48 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27 5:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 5:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 15:24 ` David Laight
2022-03-27 19:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 23:52 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28 0:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28 12:02 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27 23:37 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28 0:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 7:12 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 9:21 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-03-24 18:31 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 16:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 18:02 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 15:25 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 16:23 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 16:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-25 18:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 18:42 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28 6:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-28 8:15 ` David Laight
2022-03-30 12:11 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-24 8:55 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
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