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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	 Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC] Mitigating unexpected arithmetic overflow
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 12:15:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjHA8Di-cpT0pKcScwcWNVYRFvmhBwMrug=Mj5WUwa2rw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240509184806.GS2118490@ZenIV>

On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 11:48, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> FWIW, the thing that somewhat worries me about having a helper along
> the lines of combine_to_u64(low, high) is that
>         foo->splat = combine_to_u64(something, something_else);
> would be inviting hard-to-catch brainos -
>         foo->splat = combine_to_u64(something_else, something);

Yeah, we'd have to be very clear about naming and ordering. So it
would probably have to be something like

        result = combine_to_u64_hi_lo(high, low);

to be easy to use.

The good news is that if you *do* get it wrong despite clear naming,
the resulting value will be so obviously wrong that it's generally a
"Duh!" thing if you do any testing what-so-ever.

Of course, I say that as somebody who always points out that I haven't
tested my own patches at all, and they are "something like this,
perhaps?".

But having "hi_lo" kind of naming would hopefully make it really
obvious even when just looking at the source code.

              Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-09 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07 23:27 [RFC] Mitigating unexpected arithmetic overflow Kees Cook
2024-05-08 12:22 ` David Laight
2024-05-08 23:43   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 19:44   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-08 20:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 22:54       ` Kees Cook
2024-05-08 23:47         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09  0:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09  0:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09  6:11           ` Kees Cook
2024-05-09 14:08             ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-05-09 15:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 17:54                 ` Al Viro
2024-05-09 18:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 18:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 18:48                       ` Al Viro
2024-05-09 19:15                         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2024-05-09 19:28                           ` Al Viro
2024-05-09 21:06                 ` David Laight
2024-05-18  5:11             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-09 21:23           ` David Laight
2024-05-12  8:03           ` Martin Uecker
2024-05-12 16:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-12 19:29               ` Martin Uecker
2024-05-13 18:34               ` Kees Cook
2024-05-15  7:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-15 17:12             ` Justin Stitt
2024-05-16  7:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 13:30             ` Kees Cook
2024-05-16 14:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 19:48                 ` Justin Stitt
2024-05-16 20:07                   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-16 20:51                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-05-17 21:15                     ` Kees Cook
2024-05-18  2:51                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-05-17 22:04                   ` Fangrui Song
2024-05-18 13:08               ` David Laight
2024-05-15  7:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-17  7:45       ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-05-11 16:19 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-05-13 19:43   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-14  8:45     ` Dan Carpenter
2024-05-18 15:39       ` David Laight

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