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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	cluster-devel <cluster-devel@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:50:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjWDsB-dDj+x4yr8h8f_VSkyB7MbgGqBzDRMNz125sZxw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXhH0sBSyTyz5Eh2@arm.com>

On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:24 AM Catalin Marinas
<catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> While more intrusive, I'd rather change copy_page_from_iter_atomic()
> etc. to take a pointer where to write back an error code.

I absolutely hate this model.

The thing is, going down that rat-hole, you'll find that you'll need
to add it to *all* the "copy_to/from_user()" cases, which isn't
acceptable. So then you start doing some duplicate versions with
different calling conventions, just because of things like this.

So no, I really don't want a "pass down a reference to an extra error
code" kind of horror.

That said, the fact that these sub-page faults are always
non-recoverable might be a hint to a solution to the problem: maybe we
could extend the existing return code with actual negative error
numbers.

Because for _most_ cases of "copy_to/from_user()" and friends by far,
the only thing we look for is "zero for success".

We could extend the "number of bytes _not_ copied" semantics to say
"negative means fatal", and because there are fairly few places that
actually look at non-zero values, we could have a coccinelle script
that actually marks those places.

End result: no change in calling conventions, no change to most users,
and the (relatively few) cases where we look at the "what about
partial results", we just add a

         .. existing code ..
         ret = copy_from_user(..);
+        if (ret < 0)
+                break;  // or whatever "fatal error" situation
         .. existing  code ..

kind of thing that just stops the re-try.

(The coccinelle script couldn't actually do that, but it could add
some comment marker or something so that it's easy to find and then
manually fix up the places it finds).

             Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-19 13:41 [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 01/17] iov_iter: Fix iov_iter_get_pages{,_alloc} page fault return value Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 02/17] powerpc/kvm: Fix kvm_use_magic_page Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 03/17] gup: Turn fault_in_pages_{readable,writeable} into fault_in_{readable,writeable} Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 04/17] iov_iter: Turn iov_iter_fault_in_readable into fault_in_iov_iter_readable Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 05/17] iov_iter: Introduce fault_in_iov_iter_writeable Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-20 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 06/17] gfs2: Add wrapper for iomap_file_buffered_write Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 07/17] gfs2: Clean up function may_grant Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 08/17] gfs2: Introduce flag for glock holder auto-demotion Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 09/17] gfs2: Move the inode glock locking to gfs2_file_buffered_write Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 10/17] gfs2: Eliminate ip->i_gh Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 11/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks for buffered I/O Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [PATCH v8 12/17] iomap: Fix iomap_dio_rw return value for user copies Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 13/17] iomap: Support partial direct I/O on user copy failures Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 14/17] iomap: Add done_before argument to iomap_dio_rw Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 15:51   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-19 19:30     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-20  1:57       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 15/17] gup: Introduce FOLL_NOFAULT flag to disable page faults Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 16/17] iov_iter: Introduce nofault " Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [PATCH v8 17/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks for direct I/O Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 15:40 ` [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks Linus Torvalds
2021-10-19 16:00   ` Bob Peterson
2021-10-20 16:36   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-20 20:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-20 22:44       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-21  6:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-22 18:06           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-22 19:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-25 19:00               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-26 18:24                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-26 18:50                   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-10-26 19:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-27 19:13                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-27 21:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-28 21:20                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 21:40                           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 22:15                           ` Andreas Grünbacher
2021-10-29 12:50                             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 22:32                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-29 17:50                             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-29 18:47                               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-25 18:24             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-26  5:12               ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-10-26  9:44               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-27 21:21               ` Andreas Gruenbacher

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